[Open-education] [cc-openedu] Re: [OER-advocacy] Fwd: OER Metadata Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators

Fri Feb 1 11:52:02 UTC 2019

(with the caveat that "lobbying the W3C" isn't how they work, and that 
including specialist terms in all RDF systems isn't a realistic outcome) 
participation with W3C is a good idea. I've already chaired two W3C 
community groups. But, please, the proliferation of such groups doesn't 
help (as well as W3C we have DCMI, IEEE, IMS, ISO, and more). It's often 
the same people participating, normally unpaid, and spread pretty thinly.

As to creating a few terms for use in RDF, I would hope that the one or 
two terms could already be found in LRMI 
http://dublincore.org/dcx/lrmi-terms/ or similar.

Phil

On 01/02/2019 11:12, Angela.Secrest wrote:
>
> I agree with these suggestions but would like to suggest, in addition 
> to lobbying W3C, participation in the W3C initiative.
>
> Angela
>
> *From:*Pen Lister [mailto:penworks at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 01, 2019 1:22 AM
> *To:* Sean Fullerton
> *Cc:* Wally Grotophorst; Angela.Secrest; J Marks; Cable Green; 
> Educause Openness Constituent Group; OER Advocacy Coalition; 
> OER-DISCUSS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK; OER Forum; Open Educaton @ OKFN; 
> OPENEDSIG at JISCMAIL.AC.UK; International OER Advocacy; Open Education 
> Platform; Heather White
> *Subject:* Re: [cc-openedu] Re: [OER-advocacy] Fwd: OER Metadata 
> Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators
>
> hi all
>
> I was pleased to see the email from Wally regarding update being the 
> most important issue here:
>
>         /"The schema is fundamentally important but adoption is key./
>
>         /Perhaps there are ways to make existing schema more
>         adoption-friendly./
>
>         /The fact that Joshua's link list has 7 different links to
>         relevant schema seems like a clue."/
>
> My own view is that adoption is key, using one or other method with 
> some level of interoperability between systems.
>
>   * Lobbying W3C and other relevant bodies for adoption of one or two
>     'standardised' properties regarding pedagogical factors. These
>     could be included in ALL RDF systems, building interoperability at
>     core level
>   * Using Open Graph is (probably) the most popular method across the
>     web for 'general' webpage content - add standardised properties to
>     this for pedagogical factors, and millions of pages become more
>     discoverable as learning resources
>   * Adequate smarter discovery of millions of webpages that may not
>     qualify fully as 'OER' but nevertheless are really useful
>     knowledge pages is essential, as far as I can see, to building a
>     full knowledge web for all - incorporating informal as well as
>     formal learning
>   * I believe that at some level the development and then use of a
>     standard API plugin in relation to faceted search functionality
>     would permit any LMS to interact with search in more specific
>     pedagogical ways, even permitting each learner to have their own
>     access in this way, rather than only relying on Google's own
>     (open) search behaviours
>
> Id be interested to hear other thoughts on this.
>
> Pen
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:27 AM Sean Fullerton <fullertones at gmail.com 
> <mailto:fullertones at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I will also echo Joshua and others' recommendation to look
>     seriously at LRMI as the metadata standard for OER. Many good
>     minds have contributed to that work over time. It would be better
>     for practitioners to contribute to refining LRMI than trying to
>     develop a new competing standard.
>
>     I also agree, however, that there is still much work to be done to
>     improve OER discovery. As a school librarian, I am also interested
>     in extending this to K-12, curating and tagging OERs to help
>     teachers find good resources.
>
>     /--Sean Fullerton/
>
>
>     School Librarian, Foss IB World School 253-571-7401 <tel:+12535717401>
>     2112 S. Tyler Street
>
>     Tacoma, WA  98405
>
>     /From our International Baccalaureate LearnerProfile Attributes:/
>
>         */Inquirer/*
>
>         /We nurture our curiosity, developing skills for inquiry
>         and research./
>
>         /We know how to learn independently and with others./
>
>         /We learn with enthusiasm and sustain our love of learning /
>
>         /throughout life./
>
>     On Jan 31, 2019 11:08 AM, "Wally Grotophorst"
>     <wally.grotophorst at gmail.com <mailto:wally.grotophorst at gmail.com>>
>     wrote:
>
>     The schema is fundamentally important but adoption is key.
>     Perhaps there are ways to make existing schema more adoption-friendly.
>     The fact that Joshua's link list has 7 different links to relevant
>     schema seems like a clue.
>
>     - Wally
>
>     Wally Grotophorst
>     Associate University Librarian
>     George Mason University
>     4400 University Drive
>     Fairfax, Virginia 22030
>     703 993-9005
>
>
>     Angela.Secrest wrote on 1/29/19 7:01 AM:
>
>
>
>     I second Joshua’s reminder and sentiment. Metadata is a part of
>     the global conversation and is already recognized as a necessity
>     for interoperability, discovery and sustainability. Some schemas
>     are already highly developed – JISC, for example. This was one of
>     my big takeaways from Open Repositories 2018.
>
>     I’ll add to Joshua’s link list:
>
>     The W3C OER Schema Community: https://www.w3.org/community/oerschema/
>
>     http://oerschema.org/
>
>     Best,
>
>     Angela
>
>     Angela K. Secrest
>
>     District Director, Library Services
>
>     https://library.hccs.edu
>
>     *From:*cc-openedu at googlegroups.com
>     <mailto:cc-openedu at googlegroups.com>
>     [mailto:cc-openedu at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *J Marks
>     *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 4:15 PM
>     *To:* Cable Green
>     *Cc:* Educause Openness Constituent Group; OER Advocacy Coalition;
>     OER-DISCUSS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:OER-DISCUSS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>;
>     OER Forum; Open Educaton @ OKFN; OPENEDSIG at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>     <mailto:OPENEDSIG at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>; International OER Advocacy;
>     Open Education Platform; Heather White
>     *Subject:* [cc-openedu] Re: [OER-advocacy] Fwd: OER Metadata
>     Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators
>
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>     Cable et al,
>
>     I would like to remind the community of the work Creative Commons
>     participated in some 10 years ago on this very topic. LRMI, the
>     Learning Resource Metadata [1] initiative has been adopted by and
>     integrated within Schema.org under "Creative Work" and includes
>     things like learning resource type [3], intended audience, typical
>     age range, and the very important "AlignmentObject" [3]. This work
>     has more recently been harmonized into other
>     specifications/metadata models such as CEDS [4], and the new IMS
>     Global LTI Resource Search standard [5]. The LRMI taskforce is
>     right now discussing specific vocabularies for resource types [6].
>     Lastly, and in support of these initiative, the IMS Global CASE
>     [7] ("Competencies and Academic Standards Exchange") address how
>     to create and exchange a learning standards or competency
>     framework (e.g. what a student must learn and demonstrate to
>     provide learning or master)
>
>     [1] http://lrmi.dublincore.org/
>
>     [2] https://schema.org/learningResourceType
>
>     [3] https://schema.org/AlignmentObject
>
>     [4] https://ceds.ed.gov/element/000928/ (example for resource type
>     elements)
>
>     [5] https://www.imsglobal.org/resource-search
>
>     [6]
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u7Nniey6SMDCjXBOLws7IRrtNaXvYe6tvfDof8Po_Ck/edit#heading=h.vb28knroittx
>
>
>     [7] https://www.imsglobal.org/activity/case
>
>     I would highly recommend adding to this work and greatly
>     discourage an attempt to reinvent this wheel.
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>     Joshua Marks (IMS, LRMI, PCG, Curriki, etc.)
>
>     On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 1:19 PM Cable Green
>     <cable at creativecommons.org <mailto:cable at creativecommons.org>> wrote:
>
>         Greetings Open Education Friends:
>
>         I'm forwarding this call for collaboration from my OER
>         Librarian friend and colleague, Heather White.
>
>         Warm regards,
>
>
>         Cable
>
>         Cable Green, PhD
>         Director of Open Education
>         Creative Commons
>
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>         ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>         From: *Heather White* <Heather.White at mhcc.edu
>         <mailto:Heather.White at mhcc.edu>>
>         Date: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:27 AM
>         Subject: OER Metadata Standards for Discovery: Call for
>         Collaborators
>
>         /{please excuse cross postings & please share widely}/
>
>         Finding OER remains a challenge for faculty and the librarians
>         who support them and the reason is technical - as a community,
>         we have not yet agreed on metadata standards for all of our
>         various computer systems to use.
>
>         3 librarians in the Pacific Northwest are looking for
>         technical services and systems librarians, and OER search
>         engine administrators to come together and decide on metadata
>         standards to improve the OER discovery process. While there's
>         ongoing improvement in various OER repository search engines,
>         librarians sending emails to listservs asking "anyone know of
>         OER on this topic?" is still an all too common occurrence.
>
>         It’s time to apply cataloging and systems librarians’
>         expertise to bring the OER discovery process up to par with
>         traditional library research tools. And we need to do this in
>         collaboration with our non-library colleagues that are
>         optimizing OER search engines.
>
>         Interested in helping? Want to learn more?
>
>         Click here to sign up for the OER Metadata Group!
>         <https://sites.google.com/view/oermetadatagroup/home>
>
>         Direct link: https://sites.google.com/view/oermetadatagroup/home
>
>         Heather White, MLS
>
>         Library Technical Services Coordinator
>
>         Mt Hood Community College
>
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>
>         503-491-7106
>
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