[Open-education] [cc-openedu] Re: [OER-advocacy] Fwd: OER Metadata Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators

Fri Feb 1 17:30:35 UTC 2019

+1 to Angie's breakdown of tags.
I would also suggest adding tags related to accessibility whenever possible.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 11:25 AM Mark Corbett Wilson <
markcorbettwilson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings
>
> I would add the FOAF (friend of a friend) ontology to support building OE
> communities and PLNs.
> My suggestion for "a controlled vocabulary (ontology) to enable both human
> and machine searches for OE objects on the internets" was accepted in 2017
> but didn't seem to stick to the CC Open Education Platform
> <https://creativecommons.org/2017/09/05/invitation-join-cc-open-education-platform/>.
> In my attempt to eschew verbosity I didn't explain this as metadata or as a
> means of community building.
> I made a similar proposal three years ago to the Association for
> Authentic, Experiential, and Evidence-Based Learning (AAEEBL), the
> international professional development organization for ePortfolio teachers
> and administrators. So far, no progress has been made in the AAEEBL Special
> Interest Group.
> Apparently this is a wicked problem that will need an international group
> like CC to lead.
>
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>
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> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:49 AM Pen Lister <penworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats super useful for my work Angie.
>>
>> Ill respond again later to Phil and yourself but finding this a very
>> useful thread. Thanks.
>>
>> Pen
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>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 3:12 PM Angie Baker <anleba87 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> There are multiple sets of schemas for tagging.  LRMI, CEDS, and so many
>>> more.  In my experience, I have found that neither the resource creator or
>>> the process/person adding content to an LMS are on the same page.
>>> I have worked with states, districts, and vendors to harvest content.
>>> Each on having their own metadata fields.
>>> In US, we had a group of 13 states “adopt” common educational metadata
>>> tags so that we could share resources across states easily.  For reasons
>>> such as inability to change LOR input fields and lack of understanding this
>>> “adoption” failed.
>>> This is a wide field. I will say that a lesson I learned through the
>>> state tagging initiative was we had too many fields with too specific
>>> option sets.  I have tagged thousands of resources and manage my states LOR
>>> and application teachers use to search our LOR.
>>> Most Common search fields after grade and subject:
>>> Keyword
>>> Media type (audio, video, doc, etc)
>>> Instructional type  (interactive, module, lesson, etc)
>>> And rating.
>>> Everything else is just nice to have.
>>>
>>> The common tags I see most content have:
>>> Title, description, subject, grade.
>>>
>>> Interesting topic.
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker at pjjk.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/02/2019 12:47, Pen Lister wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> thanks for your input.
>>>
>>> Sorry about not using correct terminology about 'lobbying' - it was just
>>> a figure of speech. Being involved at relevant level in standards bodies to
>>> be able to adopt interoperable meta properties is all I am talking about.
>>>
>>> No problem. I baulked at the implication that there is some other group
>>> of people somewhere doing this work who we should be influencing. The only
>>> way to get influence is to do the work. Probably me being over-sensitive.
>>>
>>>
>>> In terms of adding 'specialist terms' - Im talking about basic
>>> properties that are very likely in use already - for example EQF level and
>>> topic area would probably be enough to begin with.
>>>
>>> EQF *is* specialist. It's specific to education, and only used in Europe.
>>>
>>>
>>> The idea is to simplify as currently the sheer amount of derivative RDF
>>> approaches (meta or inline, different nomenclatures, different validation
>>> rules etc etc) probably put most people off altogether.
>>>
>>> I noted with some consternation that though these RDF languages might be
>>> popular amongst proponents of OER they are very often not used at all
>>> elsewhere. Open Graph remains the single highest used RDF, for obvious
>>> reasons.
>>>
>>> My reading of http://webdatacommons.org/structureddata/#toc3 is that
>>> schema.org is more widely used in terms of number of pay level domains
>>> and number of entities described. But it's not easy to make straight
>>> comparisons with so many variables in syntax and the nature of the data
>>> models.
>>>
>>> I think if you can get a tag into Open Graph for representing
>>> educational level that would be a great start in making OG useful for
>>> representing educational properties. Though there will then be issues about
>>> what terms you use to describe the educational level.
>>> I'll be at the OER19 conference in a couple of months, I'ld be happy to
>>> talk about this to anyone there.
>>>
>>> Phil
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