[open-government] [ckan-discuss] Global Open Data

David Eaves david at eaves.ca
Fri Oct 29 23:10:54 UTC 2010


Hi Sara,

This is a great question...

I've spoken with the RHoK organizing folks and we're limited in how much 
we can dovetail the events. I'd love to bandwagon on their hackathons 
but there are limits to what RHoK can agree to based on funding commitments.

So I think we'll run GOD on the 4th but we'll also advertise the RHoK 
hackathons on whatever site we get up and running... nothing would make 
me happier to have people get interested in RHoK and want to participate 
there (as well or instead).

In the future I promise we'll coordinate better!

On 10-10-29 4:27 AM, Sara Farmer wrote:
> Hello OpenGovernment folks!
> I'm a little confused by the last comment about 'dovetailing' the 
> Global Open Data (GOD) Hackathon with the Random Hacks of Kindness 
> (RHOK) hackathon. Is your plan to
> a) Run GOD (4th December) on the same date as RHOK (4th-5th December), 
> but independent from RHOK
> b) Run GOD on the same date as RHOK, and coordinating with it
> c) Run GOD as part of RHOK
> d) or run GOD on a completely different date to RHOK (in which case 
> sign me up please!).
> Speaking selfishly as someone who is about to start reaching out to 
> potential RHOK team members, the more hackers, designers etc that are 
> available to RHOK the better, and it might also be useful to have a 
> place to put ideas that fit open data but don't quite fit into RHOK.
> I've cc'd one of the RHOK organisers here - I suggest you get your 
> heads together and make this thing even more awesome than it's 
> threatening to be already!
> Sj.
>
>
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>        1. Re: [ckan-discuss] Global Open Data hackathon (Ton Zijlstra)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:27:37 +0200
>     From: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com
>     <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ton.zijlstra@gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [open-government] [ckan-discuss] Global Open Data
>         hackathon
>     To: David Eaves <david at eaves.ca
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>     Please also note that the proposed data, December 4th, coincides
>     with the
>     existing global hackathon Random Hacks of Kindness
>     http://www.rhok.org/
>     -------------------------------------------
>     Interdependent Thoughts
>     Ton Zijlstra
>
>     ton at tonzijlstra.eu
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>     2010/10/29 David Eaves <david at eaves.ca
>     <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=david@eaves.ca>>
>
>     >  Okay, the more this idea gets talked about the more
>     enthusiastic people
>     > become. Given the excitement, I've decided to take all my
>     thinking and shove
>     > it into a blog post
>     here<http://eaves.ca/2010/10/29/lets-do-an-international-open-data-hackathon/>
>     > .
>     >
>     > There are now over 20 people on this email so I've bcced people
>     to ensure
>     > privacy and to encourage us to move over to a listserve (see below).
>     >
>     > There are now enough of us involved that I think we should move any
>     > discussion to an actual list... Jonathan has volunteered the
>     Open Knowledge
>     > Foundation's Open Government
>     List<http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-government>,
>     > which I think makes sense.
>     >
>     > If you are interested this is all going to be locally driven, so
>     I say
>     > let's use the Etherpad that Jonathan has offered
>     up<http://opengovernmentdata.okfnpad.org/hackathon>to find one
>     another locally.
>     >
>     > Hope this sits well with everyone. We may have started something
>     here.
>     > Anyone want to help me get a page up?
>     >
>     >
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>     Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:28:09 +0200
>     From: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com
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>     Subject: Re: [open-government] [ckan-discuss] Global Open Data
>         hackathon
>     To: Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org
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>     Indeed, what Friedrich said :)
>     -------------------------------------------
>     Interdependent Thoughts
>     Ton Zijlstra
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>     2010/10/29 Friedrich Lindenberg <friedrich at pudo.org
>     <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=friedrich@pudo.org>>
>
>     > Are we still talking about Random Hacks of Kindness
>     (http://www.rhok.org/) here
>     > or accidentally planning to do a similar event at the same time?
>     I don't
>     > think we should try to do two global hackdays at once,
>     especially since RHOK
>     > seems to be pretty well organized in a large number of locations
>     and is
>     > highly relevant to OGD.
>     >
>     > Friedrich
>     >
>     >
>     > On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:18 AM, David Eaves wrote:
>     >
>     >  Okay, the more this idea gets talked about the more
>     enthusiastic people
>     > become. Given the excitement, I've decided to take all my
>     thinking and shove
>     > it into a blog post
>     here<http://eaves.ca/2010/10/29/lets-do-an-international-open-data-hackathon/>
>     > .
>     >
>     > There are now over 20 people on this email so I've bcced people
>     to ensure
>     > privacy and to encourage us to move over to a listserve (see below).
>     >
>     > There are now enough of us involved that I think we should move any
>     > discussion to an actual list... Jonathan has volunteered the
>     Open Knowledge
>     > Foundation's Open Government
>     List<http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-government>,
>     > which I think makes sense.
>     >
>     > If you are interested this is all going to be locally driven, so
>     I say
>     > let's use the Etherpad that Jonathan has offered
>     up<http://opengovernmentdata.okfnpad.org/hackathon>to find one
>     another locally.
>     >
>     > Hope this sits well with everyone. We may have started something
>     here.
>     > Anyone want to help me get a page up?
>     >
>     >
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>     Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:31:36 -0700
>     From: David Eaves <david at eaves.ca
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>     Subject: Re: [open-government] [ckan-discuss] Global Open Data
>         hackathon
>     To: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com
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>     Sounds great. Happy to have it dovetail...
>
>     On 10-10-29 1:27 AM, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
>     > Please also note that the proposed data, December 4th, coincides
>     with
>     > the existing global hackathon Random Hacks of Kindness
>     > http://www.rhok.org/
>     > -------------------------------------------
>     > Interdependent Thoughts
>     > Ton Zijlstra
>     >
>     > ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>     <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ton@tonzijlstra.eu>
>     <mailto:ton at tonzijlstra.eu
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>     > +31-6-34489360
>     >
>     > http://zylstra.org/blog
>     > -------------------------------------------
>     >
>     >
>     > 2010/10/29 David Eaves <david at eaves.ca
>     <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=david@eaves.ca>
>     <mailto:david at eaves.ca
>     <http://de.mc862.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=david@eaves.ca>>>
>     >
>     >     Okay, the more this idea gets talked about the more enthusiastic
>     >     people become. Given the excitement, I've decided to take all my
>     >     thinking and shove it into a blog post here
>     >
>     <http://eaves.ca/2010/10/29/lets-do-an-international-open-data-hackathon/>.
>     >
>     >     There are now over 20 people on this email so I've bcced
>     people to
>     >     ensure privacy and to encourage us to move over to a listserve
>     >     (see below).
>     >
>     >     There are now enough of us involved that I think we should move
>     >     any discussion to an actual list... Jonathan has volunteered the
>     >     Open Knowledge Foundation's Open Government List
>     > <http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-government>, which I
>     >     think makes sense.
>     >
>     >     If you are interested this is all going to be locally
>     driven, so I
>     >     say let's use the Etherpad that Jonathan has offered up
>     > <http://opengovernmentdata.okfnpad.org/hackathon> to find one
>     >     another locally.
>     >
>     >     Hope this sits well with everyone. We may have started something
>     >     here. Anyone want to help me get a page up?
>     >
>     >
>     >
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