[open-government] Entrenching OpenData as Gov Policy

Mon Jul 4 17:34:53 UTC 2011

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Mary-Scott Cebul
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On Jul 4, 2011, at 10:52 AM, John Wonderlich <johnwonderlich at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's enormously disappointing to me that you'd encounter that mindset anywhere, and especially disappointing that you'd encounter it at a State department event.
> 
> I think it's counterproductive to try to shoehorn open government data into categories like "innovation" or "accountability" or "civic engagement."  Nobody at State should be recommending that Open Data is just for trains, just as nobody at State should be suggesting that Open Data is just for financial disclosure.  
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> I'm surprised you'd here that attitude from top State officials, since many officials at US State are keenly aware of the kinds of public transparency checks necessary for the health of democracies around the world.  Most State officials I've met share that same broad appreciation for transparency and open data.
> 
> That said, if I can be at all helpful in talking to the officials you've mentioned, I'd be happy to -- open data shouldn't be relegated to solely the realm of service provision (as important as services are).
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> 2011/7/4 Justin Arenstein <justinarenstein at gmail.com>
> Hi everyone, 
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> I've just returned from the Community of Democracies congress in Vilnius (Lithuania), where I found that I was the only OpenData activist publicly pushing open access and open knowledge issues.
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> The most disturbing part of this is that I was also the lone voice for OpenData at the new Civil Society Forum, or the existing Corporate Democracy Forum, at CoD, which both spent substantial time speaking about the role of social media and press freedom in the Arab Spring revolts, plus similar pro-democracy movements elsewhere across the world. Delegates to both fora had absolutely no understanding of OpenData or the importance it has for hacktivists or journalists. When I later raised the issue at the separate US State Department sponsored TechCamp (which sought to give activists digital tools for circumventing oppressive regimes), there was a knee-jerk dismissal of OpenData as "irrelevant" and "all abut tram timetables". The dismissals were by the top policy makers at the Tech @ State team ... which shapes overall US policy on such issues. I had to argue hard that this was nonsense, and that access to development indicators, performance data, and things like mineral license data, contracting data, etc, were all essential to watchdog NGOS & journalists.
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> I think that, if OKF intends entrenching OpenData as a fundamental "pillar of democracy" in governments around the world, it should make a concerted effort to play a role in future meetings, + must proactively engage with the Tech @ State folk (whether we agree with US foreign policy, or not). Open Data should be recognised as a core principle for responsible government, especially in the developing world, and not as a "nice to have" luxury as it is currently viewed.
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> One way of doing this would be to produce a briefing pack for all of us to use when any of us are at these kinds of events.
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> Cheers,
> Justin
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> From: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
> Subject: [open-government] New releases from S?o Paulo?
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> Does anyone have links to material mentioned here?
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> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4378:camara-abre-dados-de-execucao-orcamentaria-e-participacao-dos-vereadores-em-sessoes&catid=33:cidadania&Itemid=90
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> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:12:53 +0100
> From: Fabrizio Scrollini <fabrizio.scrollini at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [open-government] New releases from S?o Paulo?
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> One of the presenters at OKNFCon2011 actually was one the guys  who promoted
> this policy, and was working with transparency hacker in Brazil. He
> presented with  Lucas Maiton from IPEA. Unfortunately don't have his name
> handy
> Cheers,
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> On 3 July 2011 15:41, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
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> > Does anyone have links to material mentioned here?
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> From: C?sar Viana <cesarviana at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [open-government] New releases from S?o Paulo?
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> Hi, Jonathan,
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> The open data presented there are:
> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4417:contratos-abertos&catid=6:conheca-a-camara&Itemid=20
> http://www.camara.sp.gov.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4264&Itemid=205
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> But it would be better organized, transparent and easy to visualize.
> Does it help you?
> Best,
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> C?sar
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> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
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> > Does anyone have links to material mentioned here?
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> International Digital Curation Conference (IDCC)
> http://www.dcc.ac.uk/events/idcc11/programme
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> Information about data curation
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