[open-government] [CrisisMappers] Benghazi

Thu Mar 17 08:26:09 UTC 2011

Hi Helena!

Agreed, with just one modification - we also need to think about how to 
run gov2.0 tools in internet-poor environments.  There's some very good 
precedent on this in the FrontlineSMS and RapidSMS work - i.e. we could 
use SMS message management tools as a carrier for gov2.0 
communications.   Will need some thinking about, but imho it's possible.

Sj.

On 03/17/2011 09:09 AM, Helena Puig wrote:
>
> Sara... that's an interesting idea, and I'd been meaning to email you 
> about this anyway J
>
> My personal opinion is that UNDP (specifically BCPR) should look into 
> how it can support the use of gov 2.0 as part of its governance 
> programs in post-crisis / recovery settings. The work we've been doing 
> with CRMA in Sudan is all about supporting the government to use 
> (desktop, not online) information management tools in support of 
> evidence-based planning in a post-conflict / recovery context. A key 
> corner stone of our work is to make use of these tools as a way to 
> facilitate dialogue between communities and the government (hence 
> participatory mapping workshops). To me, the gov 2.0 approach is the 
> next step for this kind of work (internet permitting) -- a more direct 
> link between the government and community. I think in the same way 
> that OCHA and the SBTF collaborated to on the Libya crisis map; UNDP 
> and the VTC could collaborate in the recovery phase on implementing 
> the use of a tool like this, with the support of local governance 
> structures.
>
> Just initial thoughts...
>
> Helena Puig Larrauri
>
> Analysis & Programming Support Coordinator
>
> Crisis and Recovery Mapping & Analysis (CRMA)
>
> Crisis Prevention and Recovery Unit, UNDP Sudan
>
> Mobile: +249 (0)912313178
>
> Twitter: @undpcrma
>
> *From:*crisismappers at googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:crisismappers at googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sara Farmer
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 10:53 AM
> *To:* crisismappers at googlegroups.com; team at kajoo.org; 
> open-government at lists.okfn.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CrisisMappers] Benghazi
>
> Might have an idea for that...  have been working on gov2.0 tools for 
> developing countries (some of you may have noticed Kajoo recently - 
> huge thanks to everyone who sent in examples of what bothered them 
> about their cities) and how to migrate the 2-way conversations that 
> start with crisismapping into gov2.0-style technology-supported 
> community discussions.
>
> The ink is still wet on this one, but the basic idea is this: there is 
> likely a need for technology-assisted community reporting and 
> discussion after the crisismappers have left. That sounds awfully like 
> gov2.0 to me. Similar types of setup, community and handover are 
> needed for both crisismapping and gov2.0 in new states, and the 
> technology-community dynamics are similar too.  And I've been 
> wondering (as I do) whether it's possible and sensible, and in that 
> case how, to use a similar volunteer structure to the SBTF's UN 
> Volunteer community to help with transition between them.
>
> Note that this is not about putting in alternative government systems, 
> but more about giving people a way to continue to report and be heard 
> by each other after the crisismapping teams have left.
>
> So. Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Sara.
>
> On 03/17/2011 01:40 AM, Matt McNabb wrote:
>
> Might I suggest that we revisit the discourse on how we define crisis, 
> to include the slow burn beyond the immediate need? That is to say, 
> difficulties in Libya will be real and vast beyond the present flash 
> in violence. What can we do as technically capable people, as 
> humanitarians, to help 2 months from now, 6 months from now? How do we 
> prepare for it, get it right, and enable the Libyan people to recover, 
> stabilize, and rebuild anew? What are the big issues that will be 
> there, and how can we be sure to we have the capacity, patience, and 
> bandwidth to help?
>
> That is, at least, my focus now. And I would be very keen to engage 
> with others onboard with addressing those challenges. We have the 
> specialists in stabilization and the appropriate policy connectivity, 
> but would value considerably a new and focused discourse across the 
> technical community.
>
> Cheers
> Matt
>
>
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> *Date: *Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:28:57 -0400
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> *Subject: *Re: [CrisisMappers] Benghazi
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> I think all Crisismappers can do now is to keep sending as much data 
> and evidence of imminent violence to the press---to blogs, to the 
> public at large, etc----as possible.  Overload them with the data. 
>  Ask them to keep making the data visible to show that people know 
> what is happening.
>
> It is clear from the international response that there will be no 
> "intervention"----atleast not at the level of international governance 
> organizations.  The UN apprears to be completely ineffectual, with 
> weak chastisements.  It appears that there are far too many intricate 
> politics at play----and this can continue to be debated as a 
> "sovereign state" issue as it is internal conflict.
>
> It is a very, very tragic state of affairs-----and perhaps rather than 
> fighting the "individual" national battles that we see along the 
> various Arab States, perhaps there needs to be some kind of unifying 
> message for people to respond to....so that the sense of isolation 
> that this is a "different' issue in each country is not promoted. 
>  This is about a new generation of people want to get out from the 
> oppression of their (mostly) grandfathers, whose interests are 
> focussed on maintaining their power and control---not about the 
> wellbeing of their (ever growing, unemployed and mostly young and 
> frustrated) populations....
>
> best, Jer
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Jen Ziemke <jen at crisismappers.net 
> <mailto:jen at crisismappers.net>> wrote:
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> I'm really worried about Benghazi, folks. Early reports are coming out 
> now that make something pretty awful look rather imminent. If anyone 
> has any ears to bend that might lead to shifts in governmental policy 
> toward actively protecting people on the ground, now would be the 
> time. Anything we can do?
>
> -- 
>
> Jen Ziemke, Ph.D.
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> Co-Founder & Co-Director
> http://www.CrisisMappers.net <http://www.crisismappers.net/>
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