[open-government] open data day 2012

Mon Nov 5 18:16:25 UTC 2012

Thanks, David, for including me on this thread.

Personally, and here at Data Catalyst, we're pretty excited about Open Data Day and how we can be involved — particularly around content and promotion.

More specifically, I think we'd love to host some discussions around the use of open data to spur both community innovation and commercial innovation. Since our work here focuses on how people use data and how data is used in the innovation economy, we'd be happy to host some discussions (online and off) about community and commercial use.

We'd be happy to use our site to promote Open Data Day and host some of those discussions, as well as contribute to other discussions happening on OpenDataDay.org and wherever else. As for timing, I think early next year would be best from a timing standpoint, but we could definitely make it happen in December if the community decides that date is best.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this comes together. If there is interest in having discussions about the role of open data in community and commercial innovation as part of Open Data Day, please do keep us in mind.

In the meantime, I'll start doing some prep about how else we can get involved; please do keep me in the loop as to the plans and how I can help.

Sameer
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From: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com<mailto:ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:56:02 +0100
To: David Eaves <david at eaves.ca<mailto:david at eaves.ca>>
Cc: Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>>, Alek Tarkowski <alek at creativecommons.pl<mailto:alek at creativecommons.pl>>, Open Government WG List <open-government at lists.okfn.org<mailto:open-government at lists.okfn.org>>, Javier Ruiz <javier at openrightsgroup.org<mailto:javier at openrightsgroup.org>>, paul Maassen <maassenpaul at gmail.com<mailto:maassenpaul at gmail.com>>, Danielle Gould <gould.danielle at gmail.com<mailto:gould.danielle at gmail.com>>, Sameer Vasta <svasta at marsdd.com<mailto:svasta at marsdd.com>>
Subject: Re: [open-government] open data day 2012

Hi David, all,

good to hear from you! As far as I am concerned no apologies are needed. Sorry to hear about the website. In general I would be in favor of trying to stick with the rhythm of doing it alongside RHoK as it provides a certain level of predictability. That said, personally it would fit me (and our group here in the city) better to do it early next year. Esp as we have a big open data event at the end of November already in town. Also currently I am not in a position to help assistance due to lack of time, and that too would be easier if we'd do it early next year.

So, I have a preference for December in terms of rhythm, but already know I will fail to contribute if it were to happen then.

Either way I can promise the support of the ePSIplatform.eu in terms of communication / PR for the event.

best,

Ton
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On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:34 PM, David Eaves <david at eaves.ca<mailto:david at eaves.ca>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

Okay here is a lengthy email on where we stand on Open Data Data. Here, is the very short version: 1) I'm super sorry for dropping the ball and owe you all a big apology 2) I definitely need help (there's a list of things) 3) We should consider pushing the date back, but I'm open to leaving it where it is.

1) Massive apology
Okay so first I owe everyone on this list a massive apology for not getting to this issue. This is doubly true of Danielle Gould and Mary Beth Baker who have been quite diligent in asking me what was going on this year and to whom I have been nearly responsive enough. Between work, some frustrating obstacles with the website (see below) and our little guy, it's been hard to find time for anything in the last 8 weeks. Either way, any organizing whole we are in is entirely my fault and I definitely want to apologize to everyone.

2) Consider moving the date?
I have had some opportunities to reach out to people and a few (particularly the Brazilians) expressed some concern with December - saying they had already had several events planned and didn't think it would work. Given we are a month away, I'd be happy to move it into the new year (although I admit I love having it on the same day every year) if we thought we needed the time.

There is no good way to make this call - but if people email the list saying, let's do it. I say, let's do it.

3) Help!
So here is where things get really sticky - as I have terrible news re the website.

3a: Website:

My website providers moved my website a few months ago and, in the process, lost everything on OpenDataDay. Sadly this includes the wiki and the site. I have some of the website data backed up, but not all of it. I know that Mary Beth, you guys have the original so this is not the end of the world, but it means we will have to stand up a new site.

Action: Someone needs to create (or use the old templates to recreate) a site. We should shoot to have the site up by friday (monday at the latest) if we went to do it on Dec 2. This would also mean standing up a wiki so we can track who is participating.

3b: DNS

To do that, I need to figure out where I bought the URL open data day and switch the DNS.

Action: *I get that information today.*

3c: Create New Content

We should create some new content - ideally have a few new challenges - for the site.

Action: I'm happy to take this on, but also happy to work with others.

3d: Start letting people know about the event

Action: I should write a blog post, but then, so can and should many others… so this challenge becomes distributed.

I'm again, really sorry about failing to communicate this. I really feel like I've let the community down. Hopefully we can find a way, either in a month, or reschedule to pick this back up. Thank you Daniel, Danielle and MAry Beth for poking me and not losing all patience.

Dave

On 2012-11-05, at 5:45 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:

> At the OKFestival some people discussed the idea to add a "theme" to this years open data day and work on the data (action plans) of participating countries of the Open Government Partnership. I do like the idea, but personally I have little recourses to move this forward. Paul and Javier now in CC - what is the latest on this idea? I also added David Eaves to this conversation. Any updates from your side David?
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> Regards
> Daniel
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> On 5 Nov 2012, at 12:39, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
>
>> Hi Alek, all,
>>
>> In the past 2 years it coincided with Random Hacks of Kindness. RHoK is scheduled for 1 & 2 December http://www.rhok.org/event/rhok-global-december-2012
>>
>> If you look at their event page you already see a list of cities participating, which people may want to connect to. http://www.rhok.org/events?qt-event_tabs=0#qt-event_tabs under RHoK Global December 2012.
>>
>> David Eaves who initiated both open data days in 2010 and 2011 has not 'given the signal' yet this time around. But I'm sure that if you want to get the ball rolling you can do that by simply announcing it that you're going to put together a local team.
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>> Any other takers?
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Ton
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>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Alek Tarkowski <alek at creativecommons.pl<mailto:alek at creativecommons.pl>> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Does any one know of any plans for Open Data Day 2012? if it is to take place at the same time as last year, there's only a month left. at the same time the webpage seems to be dead, which is worrying, as it was a pretty good global action.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Alek
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