[open-government] open data day 2012

Mon Nov 5 19:01:54 UTC 2012

David--

We've all been there with too many commitments, and you've done an amazing
job in bringing the event to where it is, so no apologies needed.

Like you, I appreciate that the event is at a predictable time each year,
but I actually think it will be a problem with the conflict with RHOK.
This is more likely to dilute the efforts of both, rather than be
synergistic.

I think moving to early next year makes a lot of sense (perhaps you can
return to December 1/2 for next year).  I'll be happy to help out and
promote and participate in the great work of so many people around the
world on this.

--Jeanne

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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:16:25 +0000
>From: Sameer Vasta <svasta at marsdd.com>
>Subject: Re: [open-government] open data day 2012
>To: David Eaves <david at eaves.ca>
>Cc: paul Maassen <maassenpaul at gmail.com>,	Open Government WG List
>	<open-government at lists.okfn.org>,	Danielle Gould
>	<gould.danielle at gmail.com>
>Message-ID: <CCBD68C5.6F5F%svasta at marsdd.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
>Thanks, David, for including me on this thread.
>
>Personally, and here at Data Catalyst, we're pretty excited about Open
>Data Day and how we can be involved ? particularly around content and
>promotion.
>
>More specifically, I think we'd love to host some discussions around the
>use of open data to spur both community innovation and commercial
>innovation. Since our work here focuses on how people use data and how
>data is used in the innovation economy, we'd be happy to host some
>discussions (online and off) about community and commercial use.
>
>We'd be happy to use our site to promote Open Data Day and host some of
>those discussions, as well as contribute to other discussions happening
>on OpenDataDay.org and wherever else. As for timing, I think early next
>year would be best from a timing standpoint, but we could definitely make
>it happen in December if the community decides that date is best.
>
>I'm looking forward to seeing how this comes together. If there is
>interest in having discussions about the role of open data in community
>and commercial innovation as part of Open Data Day, please do keep us in
>mind.
>
>In the meantime, I'll start doing some prep about how else we can get
>involved; please do keep me in the loop as to the plans and how I can
>help.
>
>Sameer
>--
>Sameer Vasta / Public Policy and Communications / MaRS Data Catalyst
>647.969.2782 / svasta at marsdd.com / http://datacatalyst.marsdd.com
>
>
>
>From: Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com<mailto:ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>>
>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:56:02 +0100
>To: David Eaves <david at eaves.ca<mailto:david at eaves.ca>>
>Cc: Daniel Dietrich
><daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>>, Alek
>Tarkowski <alek at creativecommons.pl<mailto:alek at creativecommons.pl>>, Open
>Government WG List
><open-government at lists.okfn.org<mailto:open-government at lists.okfn.org>>,
>Javier Ruiz 
><javier at openrightsgroup.org<mailto:javier at openrightsgroup.org>>, paul
>Maassen <maassenpaul at gmail.com<mailto:maassenpaul at gmail.com>>, Danielle
>Gould <gould.danielle at gmail.com<mailto:gould.danielle at gmail.com>>, Sameer
>Vasta <svasta at marsdd.com<mailto:svasta at marsdd.com>>
>Subject: Re: [open-government] open data day 2012
>
>Hi David, all,
>
>good to hear from you! As far as I am concerned no apologies are needed.
>Sorry to hear about the website. In general I would be in favor of trying
>to stick with the rhythm of doing it alongside RHoK as it provides a
>certain level of predictability. That said, personally it would fit me
>(and our group here in the city) better to do it early next year. Esp as
>we have a big open data event at the end of November already in town.
>Also currently I am not in a position to help assistance due to lack of
>time, and that too would be easier if we'd do it early next year.
>
>So, I have a preference for December in terms of rhythm, but already know
>I will fail to contribute if it were to happen then.
>
>Either way I can promise the support of the ePSIplatform.eu in terms of
>communication / PR for the event.
>
>best,
>
>Ton
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>Ton Zijlstra
>
>ton at tonzijlstra.eu<mailto:ton at tonzijlstra.eu>
>+31-6-34489360
>
>http://zylstra.org/blog
>
>Share your real life open data experiences,
>observations and anecdotes:
>http://epsiplatform.eu/content/share-your-story
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>
>
>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:34 PM, David Eaves
><david at eaves.ca<mailto:david at eaves.ca>> wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Okay here is a lengthy email on where we stand on Open Data Data. Here,
>is the very short version: 1) I'm super sorry for dropping the ball and
>owe you all a big apology 2) I definitely need help (there's a list of
>things) 3) We should consider pushing the date back, but I'm open to
>leaving it where it is.
>
>1) Massive apology
>Okay so first I owe everyone on this list a massive apology for not
>getting to this issue. This is doubly true of Danielle Gould and Mary
>Beth Baker who have been quite diligent in asking me what was going on
>this year and to whom I have been nearly responsive enough. Between work,
>some frustrating obstacles with the website (see below) and our little
>guy, it's been hard to find time for anything in the last 8 weeks. Either
>way, any organizing whole we are in is entirely my fault and I definitely
>want to apologize to everyone.
>
>2) Consider moving the date?
>I have had some opportunities to reach out to people and a few
>(particularly the Brazilians) expressed some concern with December -
>saying they had already had several events planned and didn't think it
>would work. Given we are a month away, I'd be happy to move it into the
>new year (although I admit I love having it on the same day every year)
>if we thought we needed the time.
>
>There is no good way to make this call - but if people email the list
>saying, let's do it. I say, let's do it.
>
>3) Help!
>So here is where things get really sticky - as I have terrible news re
>the website.
>
>3a: Website:
>
>My website providers moved my website a few months ago and, in the
>process, lost everything on OpenDataDay. Sadly this includes the wiki and
>the site. I have some of the website data backed up, but not all of it. I
>know that Mary Beth, you guys have the original so this is not the end of
>the world, but it means we will have to stand up a new site.
>
>Action: Someone needs to create (or use the old templates to recreate) a
>site. We should shoot to have the site up by friday (monday at the
>latest) if we went to do it on Dec 2. This would also mean standing up a
>wiki so we can track who is participating.
>
>3b: DNS
>
>To do that, I need to figure out where I bought the URL open data day and
>switch the DNS.
>
>Action: *I get that information today.*
>
>3c: Create New Content
>
>We should create some new content - ideally have a few new challenges -
>for the site.
>
>Action: I'm happy to take this on, but also happy to work with others.
>
>3d: Start letting people know about the event
>
>Action: I should write a blog post, but then, so can and should many
>others? so this challenge becomes distributed.
>
>I'm again, really sorry about failing to communicate this. I really feel
>like I've let the community down. Hopefully we can find a way, either in
>a month, or reschedule to pick this back up. Thank you Daniel, Danielle
>and MAry Beth for poking me and not losing all patience.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 2012-11-05, at 5:45 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>
>> At the OKFestival some people discussed the idea to add a "theme" to
>>this years open data day and work on the data (action plans) of
>>participating countries of the Open Government Partnership. I do like
>>the idea, but personally I have little recourses to move this forward.
>>Paul and Javier now in CC - what is the latest on this idea? I also
>>added David Eaves to this conversation. Any updates from your side David?
>>
>> Regards
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 Nov 2012, at 12:39, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alek, all,
>>>
>>> In the past 2 years it coincided with Random Hacks of Kindness. RHoK
>>>is scheduled for 1 & 2 December
>>>http://www.rhok.org/event/rhok-global-december-2012
>>>
>>> If you look at their event page you already see a list of cities
>>>participating, which people may want to connect to.
>>>http://www.rhok.org/events?qt-event_tabs=0#qt-event_tabs under RHoK
>>>Global December 2012.
>>>
>>> David Eaves who initiated both open data days in 2010 and 2011 has not
>>>'given the signal' yet this time around. But I'm sure that if you want
>>>to get the ball rolling you can do that by simply announcing it that
>>>you're going to put together a local team.
>>>
>>> Any other takers?
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Ton
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Interdependent Thoughts
>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>>
>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu<mailto:ton at tonzijlstra.eu>
>>> +31-6-34489360
>>>
>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>>
>>> Share your real life open data experiences,
>>> observations and anecdotes:
>>> http://epsiplatform.eu/content/share-your-story
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Alek Tarkowski
>>><alek at creativecommons.pl<mailto:alek at creativecommons.pl>> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Does any one know of any plans for Open Data Day 2012? if it is to
>>>take place at the same time as last year, there's only a month left. at
>>>the same time the webpage seems to be dead, which is worrying, as it
>>>was a pretty good global action.
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> Alek
>>>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:16:43 -0500
>From: "Hare, Jason" <Jason.Hare at raleighnc.gov>
>Subject: Re: [open-government] open data day 2012
>To: David Eaves <david at eaves.ca>, Daniel Dietrich
>	<daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>
>Cc: paul Maassen <maassenpaul at gmail.com>,	Danielle Gould
>	<gould.danielle at gmail.com>,	Open Government WG List
>	<open-government at lists.okfn.org>,	Sameer Vasta <svasta at marsdd.com>
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>Dave-
>
>As a citizen (not as a City Person) I would be happy to donate some of my
>dedicated server space or spin up a cloud to host Open Data Day
>permanently and at no cost. I use Rackspace and have a dedicated box
>there along with several cloud spin ups for my personal endeavors.
>
>If other offers have been made available to you- no problem- but I would
>like to contribute if it is needed.
>
>Best Regards
>
>Jason Hare
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org
>[mailto:open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of David Eaves
>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 11:34 AM
>To: Daniel Dietrich
>Cc: paul Maassen; Open Government WG List; Danielle Gould; Sameer Vasta
>Subject: Re: [open-government] open data day 2012
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>Okay here is a lengthy email on where we stand on Open Data Data. Here,
>is the very short version: 1) I'm super sorry for dropping the ball and
>owe you all a big apology 2) I definitely need help (there's a list of
>things) 3) We should consider pushing the date back, but I'm open to
>leaving it where it is.
>
>1) Massive apology
>Okay so first I owe everyone on this list a massive apology for not
>getting to this issue. This is doubly true of Danielle Gould and Mary
>Beth Baker who have been quite diligent in asking me what was going on
>this year and to whom I have been nearly responsive enough. Between work,
>some frustrating obstacles with the website (see below) and our little
>guy, it's been hard to find time for anything in the last 8 weeks. Either
>way, any organizing whole we are in is entirely my fault and I definitely
>want to apologize to everyone.
>
>2) Consider moving the date?
>I have had some opportunities to reach out to people and a few
>(particularly the Brazilians) expressed some concern with December -
>saying they had already had several events planned and didn't think it
>would work. Given we are a month away, I'd be happy to move it into the
>new year (although I admit I love having it on the same day every year)
>if we thought we needed the time.
>
>There is no good way to make this call - but if people email the list
>saying, let's do it. I say, let's do it.
>
>3) Help!
>So here is where things get really sticky - as I have terrible news re
>the website.
>
>3a: Website:
>
>My website providers moved my website a few months ago and, in the
>process, lost everything on OpenDataDay. Sadly this includes the wiki and
>the site. I have some of the website data backed up, but not all of it. I
>know that Mary Beth, you guys have the original so this is not the end of
>the world, but it means we will have to stand up a new site.
>
>Action: Someone needs to create (or use the old templates to recreate) a
>site. We should shoot to have the site up by friday (monday at the
>latest) if we went to do it on Dec 2. This would also mean standing up a
>wiki so we can track who is participating.
>
>
>3b: DNS
>
>To do that, I need to figure out where I bought the URL open data day and
>switch the DNS. 
>
>Action: *I get that information today.*
>
>3c: Create New Content
>
>We should create some new content - ideally have a few new challenges -
>for the site.
>
>Action: I'm happy to take this on, but also happy to work with others.
>
>3d: Start letting people know about the event
>
>Action: I should write a blog post, but then, so can and should many
>others... so this challenge becomes distributed.
>
>I'm again, really sorry about failing to communicate this. I really feel
>like I've let the community down. Hopefully we can find a way, either in
>a month, or reschedule to pick this back up. Thank you Daniel, Danielle
>and MAry Beth for poking me and not losing all patience.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 2012-11-05, at 5:45 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>
>> At the OKFestival some people discussed the idea to add a "theme" to
>>this years open data day and work on the data (action plans) of
>>participating countries of the Open Government Partnership. I do like
>>the idea, but personally I have little recourses to move this forward.
>>Paul and Javier now in CC - what is the latest on this idea? I also
>>added David Eaves to this conversation. Any updates from your side David?
>> 
>> Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Nov 2012, at 12:39, Ton Zijlstra wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alek, all,
>>> 
>>> In the past 2 years it coincided with Random Hacks of Kindness. RHoK
>>> is scheduled for 1 & 2 December
>>> http://www.rhok.org/event/rhok-global-december-2012
>>> 
>>> If you look at their event page you already see a list of cities
>>>participating, which people may want to connect to.
>>>http://www.rhok.org/events?qt-event_tabs=0#qt-event_tabs under RHoK
>>>Global December 2012.
>>> 
>>> David Eaves who initiated both open data days in 2010 and 2011 has not
>>>'given the signal' yet this time around. But I'm sure that if you want
>>>to get the ball rolling you can do that by simply announcing it that
>>>you're going to put together a local team.
>>> 
>>> Any other takers?
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> Ton
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Interdependent Thoughts
>>> Ton Zijlstra
>>> 
>>> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
>>> +31-6-34489360
>>> 
>>> http://zylstra.org/blog
>>> 
>>> Share your real life open data experiences, observations and
>>> anecdotes:
>>> http://epsiplatform.eu/content/share-your-story
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Alek Tarkowski
>>><alek at creativecommons.pl> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> Does any one know of any plans for Open Data Day 2012? if it is to
>>>take place at the same time as last year, there's only a month left. at
>>>the same time the webpage seems to be dead, which is worrying, as it
>>>was a pretty good global action.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> Alek
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> open-government mailing list
>>> open-government at lists.okfn.org
>>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-government
>>> Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-government
>>> 
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