[open-government] Definitions of Open Government and Open Government Data

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Evgeny Morozov wrote an interesting essay about Tim O'Reilly and how he
coined the term 'open'. You can call it 'refreshing' or 'a shower of
vinegar', anyhow it gives an interesting view on the way people use and
perceive terms.

The Meme Hustler - Tim O’Reilly’s crazy talk
Evgeny Morozov, In: The Baffler No. 22

http://thebaffler.com/past/the_meme_hustler

Hans Overbeek

> On Sun Apr 7 20:01:06 BST 2013, Ton Zijlstra <Ton Zijlstra ton.zijlstra
at gmail.com > wrote:
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> I agree,
>
> Open Government Data is open data from a government body, as per the open
> data definition.
>
> There is public information and public data, which is accessible but might
> not be open (no open license, fees applied, not in open or commonly used
> standards, not machine readable etc.) Open gov data is a subset of what is
> public gov data.
>
> Usually what is public is regulated in national law in each country. And
it
> might differ, a lot. Also in terms of how copyright is applied to public
> gov material.
>
> Also realize that there is a difference between right to access and right
> to re-use in a lot of places. Freedom of information and open data are not
> synonymous. It can even be there is a general re-use right, but no access
> right. This is the case in Spain for instance. There you have the right to
> use everything that is being published in any way you want, but there is
no
> right to any information, and you're dependent on what gov publishes of
its
> own accord.
>
> best,
> Ton
>
>
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>
> ton at tonzijlstra.eu
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> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:34 PM, James McKinney <james at opennorth.ca>
wrote:
>
> > > But what about Open Government Data? I think it would be too harsh to
> > > define it as Open Data provided by the government, because there is so
> > > much government data out there which is not open, but accessible
> > > nonetheless.
> >
> > I think that is precisely how most people would define it, however. If
you
> > want to talk about publicly available government data more generally,
maybe
> > "publicly available government data" would be a suitable identifier.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > On 2013-04-07, at 1:52 PM, Konrad Reiche wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I am writing my thesis in Computer Science in the context of Open
> > > Government Data. Lately, I am dealing a lot with the definitions of
> > > Open Data, Open Government and Open Government Data.
> > >
> > > I would say, Open Data is more or less quite well-defined, but I have
> > > my problems with narrowing it down for Open Government and Open
> > > Government Data. Recently I have started to read "Open Government,
> > > Collaboration, Transparency, and Participation in Practice" published
> > > by O'Reilly Media. For Open Government it says:
> > >
> > > "What is open government? In the most basic sense, it’s the notion
that
> > > the people have the right to access the documents and proceedings of
> > > government."
> > >
> > > But what about Open Government Data? I think it would be too harsh to
> > > define it as Open Data provided by the government, because there is so
> > > much government data out there which is not open, but accessible
> > > nonetheless.
> > >
> > > So I would rather read it as ((Open Goverment) Data), data provided by
> > > the government, where people have the right to access them.
> > >
> > > Does someone know whether these terms are discussed somewhere in more
> > > detail, something that I could reference?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Konrad
> > >
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