[open-government] Public assessment of the OGP national plans

alberto abella alberto.abella at okfn.es
Sun Aug 10 16:47:20 UTC 2014


My initial concern was that governments feel no pressure from public
opinion by providing non ambitious action plans to the OGP, with no
relevant actions in them and even missing systematically their
commitments.

Lots of efforts have been made by the IRM, Census and other
initiatives. 
We have to make easy for the public opinion to understand who is doing
real efforts (and for journalists to write an easy headline) 

Any tool to visualize the real efforts  and achievements vs action plans
in the simplest form (and a rank is just an example), will help to
understand who is doing real efforts and to put some pressure the
governments to meet their commitments.

Alberto




On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 16:58 +0100, Daniela Mattern wrote:
> @Mor:
> 
> 
> 
> +1 on syncing with the Census work.
> 
> 
> 
> There has been some suggestion around providing more background
> information around the country that is evaluated in the census, for
> instance
> 
> 
> 
> - existence and quality of FOIA
> 
> - existence of OGP
> 
> - existence of national Open Data Portal
> 
> 
> 
> To my mind a good place for this information would be a wiki, apart
> from this we can of course have spreadsheets for comparison between
> countries. In the census we then could have a link to a wiki page ...
> 
> 
> 
> I am happy to participate.
> 
> 
> 
> Daniela
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 August 2014 16:24, alberto abella <alberto.abella at okfn.es> wrote:
> 
>         I think that apart from the raw databases that IRM provides
>         Alan has done most of the job, to gather a summarize data
>         about the commitments.
>         https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tFdLFTvo5cHlVJ3rjM17YYMgXc6UFrPrgJsN_dgMUMc/edit#gid=1090828196
>         
>         Don't you think that further treatment (visualization) on
>         these data (kind of rank) would be an incentive for best
>         practice sharing between countries?
>         
>         I know that Tim has much more experience than me (possibly
>         Alan and Igbal you too) but it seemed to me a good idea ;-D
>         
>         Alberto
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 05:49 -0400, Alan Hudson wrote: 
>         
>         > Definitely worth being in touch with Paul Massen on this.
>         > He's been giving some thought to ways of making the
>         > excellent IRM data more accessible and useful -
>         > visualisations, platforms etc.
>         > 
>         > 
>         > My post from May includes some links that people might want
>         > to explore too re IRM data and analysis
>         > 
>         > 
>         > http://alanhudson.info/?p=11589
>         > 
>         > 
>         > best
>         > alan
>         > 
>         > 
>         > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Tim Davies
>         > <tim at timdavies.org.uk> wrote:
>         > 
>         >         Hey Alberto, Igbal
>         >         
>         >         Have you see the dataset that the Open Government
>         >         Partnership Independent Reporting Mechanism team are
>         >         working on? 
>         >         
>         >         http://www.opengovpartnership.org/independent-reporting-mechanism
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         They are currently working on coding up the
>         >         commitments made by countries, and then sharing this
>         >         data for others to analyse. Carrying out an analysis
>         >         of this data might be a good first step. 
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         They have been tagging commitments for level of
>         >         ambition, as well as theme etc.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         Because of the way the OGP works (voluntary
>         >         commitments by countries, supposed to be based on
>         >         consultation with civil society in country), I'm not
>         >         sure a general ranking is possible or desirable - as
>         >         countries should be encouraged to improve their
>         >         levels of ambition and their engagement with local
>         >         civil society, rather than to compete against some
>         >         externally defined set of important open government
>         >         ideas. 
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         However, it might be possible to use tools like the
>         >         Open Data Index to scrutinize open data commitments
>         >         in particular - checking that all the datasets
>         >         countries commit to publish are checked for those
>         >         countries that commit to them. This sort of civil
>         >         society provided evidence of meeting commitments
>         >         would potentially feed well into the Independent
>         >         Reporting Mechanism.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         An alternative approach would be to take the
>         >         commitments data, and try and create a platform to
>         >         allow more public engagement with the commitments,
>         >         crowdsourcing views on whether they are (a)
>         >         ambitious enough; and (b) being applied and
>         >         delivered on.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         All the best
>         >         
>         >         Tim 
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Igbal Safarov
>         >         <iqbal1986 at gmail.com> wrote: 
>         >         
>         >                 Dear Alberto, 
>         >                 
>         >                 
>         >                 It is very good idea to compare and do
>         >                 raking between countries. Additionally, It
>         >                 is possible to develop "best practice"
>         >                 guideline based on the good experience of
>         >                 countries. This guideline can help the
>         >                 experts to meet and improve real situation. 
>         >                 
>         >                 
>         >                 Thank you, 
>         >                 
>         >                 
>         >                 On 5 August 2014 04:41, alberto abella
>         >                 <alberto.abella at okfn.es> wrote:
>         >                 
>         >                 
>         >                         I've talked with Laura James and in
>         >                         the local coord list that it would
>         >                         be good to assess globally all the
>         >                         national action plans that the
>         >                         different countries submit to the
>         >                         OGP.
>         >                         
>         >                         It is true that some assessment is
>         >                         done in OGP but the results are not
>         >                         ranked, neither clearly published.
>         >                         We (the coordinator of Ireland and
>         >                         Spain) agree that our national plans
>         >                         were 'quite improvable' (bullshit is
>         >                         another equivalent word to describe
>         >                         them but I want to be polite) 
>         >                         
>         >                         We thought that because of the
>         >                         network of OKFN we could arrange
>         >                         such public assessment and make
>         >                         comparisons between countries.
>         >                         
>         >                         What do you think.
>         >                         
>         >                         Alberto 
>         >                         
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