[open-humanities] OpenLiterature v1.0 - let's do a reboot!

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Hi Seth,

Wanted to check you got the last response here :-) It would be great to
continue the thread as I think there is great potential here at multiple
possible levels of collaboration (from very basic to more extensive).

Rufus

On 25 February 2015 at 12:12, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:

> On 23 February 2015 at 14:55, Seth Woodworth <seth at sethish.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a project where I have forked Project Gutenberg to Github (
>> https://gitenberg.github.io/).  On Github we are starting to
>> collectively improve the copyediting and formatting of PG books.  We are
>> likely going to be using asciidoc as our base markup format document.
>>
>> I would love it if OpenLiterature editors/contributors could make
>> copy-edits or formatting edits in GITenberg and have the change end up on
>> OpenLiterature.  I think there are tangible benefits to basing on top of
>> GITenberg, having a source git commit to be able to point to to denote your
>> text document version would be useful alone.
>>
>
> I think there could be real synergies here. e.g. if GITenberg started
> storing texts as Textus structure (and perhaps as Data Packages) that could
> be the raw source for OpenLiterature. This not only builds on our original
> approach for OpenShakespeare where we had texts in git, but also on the
> recent work with "data" Data Packages both for Core Datasets project
> <http://okfnlabs.org/blog/2015/01/03/data-curators-wanted-for-core-datasets.html> and
> the storage and micro-services approach for OpenSpending
> <http://labs.openspending.org/osep/01-approach-and-architecture-of-openspending.html> (in
> OpenSpending we now store data as Budget Data Packages on s3).
>
> So basically GITenberg could become the core raw text repo that powers
> OpenLiterature.
>
> Is this of interest to the OpenLiterature folks?
>>
>
> Very much so IMO as per above.
>
> Rufus
>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:34 AM, James Harriman-Smith <
>> james.harriman-smith at cantab.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Good points Iain. And it'd be great if you could give a little time to
>>> this once you've made it through those deadlines.
>>>
>>> To carry on the discussion, with a bit of reprise for those joining us
>>> here. My suggested MVP was:
>>>
>>> Agreed by Iain:
>>> 1. Upload of texts in a simple format, ideally one used on Gutenberg
>>> 2. Allow those texts to be annotated by users publicly
>>>
>>> Questioned:
>>> 3. Make annotations and texts searchable
>>>
>>> I think #3 is very important: it would allow someone to use the platform
>>> for research far more effectively. I, for instance, often find myself
>>> looking for ideas in my notes, jotted down in response to a passage, and no
>>> longer remembering the phrase that triggered my idea.
>>>
>>> That said, I don't think #3 is essential. Open Literature can be
>>> demonstrated without it, and will still be useful. What do others think
>>> here?
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On 23 February 2015 at 09:51, Iain Emsley <iainemsley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> @rufus , +1 for the reminder and enthusiasm :)
>>>>
>>>> @james: a discussion of the minimal viable product would be useful to
>>>> provide a goal. Is #3, the search a first to do, or a rapid second? Whilst
>>>> I agree that it is necessary, do we need it initially? #2 is the part where
>>>> my earlier effort stalled in terms of integrating the existing JS and
>>>> Wordpress.
>>>>
>>>> As with others, I'm tied up at the moment but _should_ have more time
>>>> at the end of next month when some deadlines have passed by.
>>>>
>>>> Iain
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 7:32 AM, James Harriman-Smith <
>>>> james.harriman-smith at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear list, Rufus, John,
>>>>>
>>>>> @John: it's great to see some maintenance on the Open Humanities
>>>>> collection of websites happening, and a wiki booted for our activities.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Rufus, all: it's true that Open Literature has gone dormant of late,
>>>>> and definitely needs a reboot. I'm afraid that, like John though, I don't
>>>>> have time to give at the moment, as I'm writing up my thesis and trying to
>>>>> secure some kind of paid academic employment for next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, I think we could at least email about the minimum viable
>>>>> product for Open Literature, to know what we have to do when we all have a
>>>>> little more time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll start that in my next mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 09:19, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15 February 2015 at 15:10, John Levin <john at anterotesis.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regret I have very limited time - and am out of the UK - at the
>>>>>>> moment. In any case it seems that the work to be done is mainly technical,
>>>>>>> coding, at this point. Once Textus is up and running, then the non-techie
>>>>>>> humanists can get stuck in, putting up texts etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say there is need right now for a lot of *non*-techincal
>>>>>> engagement - from being site editor, to blogging, tweeting, writing new
>>>>>> essays, doing user testing, coordinating, organizing events. So would
>>>>>> definitely welcome non-technical folks here :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of side-matters:
>>>>>>> 1: Is this the OL twitter account? https://twitter.com/
>>>>>>> OpenLiterature Is anyone looking after it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No - but we could (i also wonder if we should move over
>>>>>> OpenShakespeare to here since it already has quite a few followers)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2: I have cleared spam and pending spam from the OL & Open Hums
>>>>>>> wordpress sites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amazing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3: Fixed the links in this post:
>>>>>>> http://openliterature.net/2011/09/05/shakespeare-and-the-internet/
>>>>>>> which were directing to Open Shakespeare & 404ing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fantastic - and thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/02/2015 14:39, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to restart the conversation on getting OpenLiterature v1.0
>>>>>>>> launched. In terms of key steps:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Identify the minimal viable product for OpenLiterature.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This also relates to minimal viable "Textus" platform to power this
>>>>>>>> (for
>>>>>>>> background and slide deck see http://okfnlabs.org/textus/). At
>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>> the key things would be finishing the viewer JS lib (we are 80%
>>>>>>>> there)
>>>>>>>> and integrating this into the wordpress site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Requirement: a discussion on this list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We already have an issue list
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/okfn/openliterature.net/issues> that could be
>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Estimate work and skills needed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My guess is we are talking about 3-6 person weeks here to get to
>>>>>>>> MVP -
>>>>>>>> though we would need to properly estimate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. Recruit team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anticipate roles like:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Product Owner
>>>>>>>> - Cat herder (scrum master)
>>>>>>>> - Site Editor
>>>>>>>> - Designer
>>>>>>>> - Frontend JS (viewer)
>>>>>>>> - Wordpress Plugin write (PHP)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably work asynchronously around a series of sprints (e.g. a few
>>>>>>>> weekend or Saturday sprints)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who's interested? In particular, who would be interested in
>>>>>>>> coordinating
>>>>>>>> the initial phase of getting us all moving again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> John Levin
>>>>>>> http://www.anterotesis.com
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/anterotesis
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
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