[open-humanities] OpenLiterature v1.0 - let's do a reboot!

Tue Jun 2 22:51:36 UTC 2015

Seth,

How's GITenberg getting on? Also, per Rufus' suggestion have you looked at
storing texts as Textus structure
<http://okfnlabs.org/textus/doc/textus-format.html> and perhaps as Data
Packages <http://dataprotocols.org/data-packages/>?

Cheers!

–Tod

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
wrote:

> Hi Seth,
>
> Wanted to check you got the last response here :-) It would be great to
> continue the thread as I think there is great potential here at multiple
> possible levels of collaboration (from very basic to more extensive).
>
> Rufus
>
> On 25 February 2015 at 12:12, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 23 February 2015 at 14:55, Seth Woodworth <seth at sethish.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a project where I have forked Project Gutenberg to Github (
>>> https://gitenberg.github.io/).  On Github we are starting to
>>> collectively improve the copyediting and formatting of PG books.  We are
>>> likely going to be using asciidoc as our base markup format document.
>>>
>>> I would love it if OpenLiterature editors/contributors could make
>>> copy-edits or formatting edits in GITenberg and have the change end up on
>>> OpenLiterature.  I think there are tangible benefits to basing on top of
>>> GITenberg, having a source git commit to be able to point to to denote your
>>> text document version would be useful alone.
>>>
>>
>> I think there could be real synergies here. e.g. if GITenberg started
>> storing texts as Textus structure (and perhaps as Data Packages) that could
>> be the raw source for OpenLiterature. This not only builds on our original
>> approach for OpenShakespeare where we had texts in git, but also on the
>> recent work with "data" Data Packages both for Core Datasets project
>> <http://okfnlabs.org/blog/2015/01/03/data-curators-wanted-for-core-datasets.html> and
>> the storage and micro-services approach for OpenSpending
>> <http://labs.openspending.org/osep/01-approach-and-architecture-of-openspending.html> (in
>> OpenSpending we now store data as Budget Data Packages on s3).
>>
>> So basically GITenberg could become the core raw text repo that powers
>> OpenLiterature.
>>
>> Is this of interest to the OpenLiterature folks?
>>>
>>
>> Very much so IMO as per above.
>>
>> Rufus
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:34 AM, James Harriman-Smith <
>>> james.harriman-smith at cantab.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good points Iain. And it'd be great if you could give a little time to
>>>> this once you've made it through those deadlines.
>>>>
>>>> To carry on the discussion, with a bit of reprise for those joining us
>>>> here. My suggested MVP was:
>>>>
>>>> Agreed by Iain:
>>>> 1. Upload of texts in a simple format, ideally one used on Gutenberg
>>>> 2. Allow those texts to be annotated by users publicly
>>>>
>>>> Questioned:
>>>> 3. Make annotations and texts searchable
>>>>
>>>> I think #3 is very important: it would allow someone to use the
>>>> platform for research far more effectively. I, for instance, often find
>>>> myself looking for ideas in my notes, jotted down in response to a passage,
>>>> and no longer remembering the phrase that triggered my idea.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I don't think #3 is essential. Open Literature can be
>>>> demonstrated without it, and will still be useful. What do others think
>>>> here?
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On 23 February 2015 at 09:51, Iain Emsley <iainemsley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> @rufus , +1 for the reminder and enthusiasm :)
>>>>>
>>>>> @james: a discussion of the minimal viable product would be useful to
>>>>> provide a goal. Is #3, the search a first to do, or a rapid second? Whilst
>>>>> I agree that it is necessary, do we need it initially? #2 is the part where
>>>>> my earlier effort stalled in terms of integrating the existing JS and
>>>>> Wordpress.
>>>>>
>>>>> As with others, I'm tied up at the moment but _should_ have more time
>>>>> at the end of next month when some deadlines have passed by.
>>>>>
>>>>> Iain
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 7:32 AM, James Harriman-Smith <
>>>>> james.harriman-smith at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear list, Rufus, John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @John: it's great to see some maintenance on the Open Humanities
>>>>>> collection of websites happening, and a wiki booted for our activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Rufus, all: it's true that Open Literature has gone dormant of late,
>>>>>> and definitely needs a reboot. I'm afraid that, like John though, I don't
>>>>>> have time to give at the moment, as I'm writing up my thesis and trying to
>>>>>> secure some kind of paid academic employment for next year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, I think we could at least email about the minimum viable
>>>>>> product for Open Literature, to know what we have to do when we all have a
>>>>>> little more time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll start that in my next mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 February 2015 at 09:19, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 February 2015 at 15:10, John Levin <john at anterotesis.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regret I have very limited time - and am out of the UK - at the
>>>>>>>> moment. In any case it seems that the work to be done is mainly technical,
>>>>>>>> coding, at this point. Once Textus is up and running, then the non-techie
>>>>>>>> humanists can get stuck in, putting up texts etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would say there is need right now for a lot of *non*-techincal
>>>>>>> engagement - from being site editor, to blogging, tweeting, writing new
>>>>>>> essays, doing user testing, coordinating, organizing events. So would
>>>>>>> definitely welcome non-technical folks here :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A couple of side-matters:
>>>>>>>> 1: Is this the OL twitter account? https://twitter.com/
>>>>>>>> OpenLiterature Is anyone looking after it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No - but we could (i also wonder if we should move over
>>>>>>> OpenShakespeare to here since it already has quite a few followers)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2: I have cleared spam and pending spam from the OL & Open Hums
>>>>>>>> wordpress sites.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amazing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3: Fixed the links in this post:
>>>>>>>> http://openliterature.net/2011/09/05/shakespeare-and-the-internet/
>>>>>>>> which were directing to Open Shakespeare & 404ing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fantastic - and thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15/02/2015 14:39, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to restart the conversation on getting OpenLiterature v1.0
>>>>>>>>> launched. In terms of key steps:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Identify the minimal viable product for OpenLiterature.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This also relates to minimal viable "Textus" platform to power
>>>>>>>>> this (for
>>>>>>>>> background and slide deck see http://okfnlabs.org/textus/). At
>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>> the key things would be finishing the viewer JS lib (we are 80%
>>>>>>>>> there)
>>>>>>>>> and integrating this into the wordpress site.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Requirement: a discussion on this list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We already have an issue list
>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/okfn/openliterature.net/issues> that could be
>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Estimate work and skills needed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My guess is we are talking about 3-6 person weeks here to get to
>>>>>>>>> MVP -
>>>>>>>>> though we would need to properly estimate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3. Recruit team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anticipate roles like:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Product Owner
>>>>>>>>> - Cat herder (scrum master)
>>>>>>>>> - Site Editor
>>>>>>>>> - Designer
>>>>>>>>> - Frontend JS (viewer)
>>>>>>>>> - Wordpress Plugin write (PHP)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably work asynchronously around a series of sprints (e.g. a few
>>>>>>>>> weekend or Saturday sprints)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who's interested? In particular, who would be interested in
>>>>>>>>> coordinating
>>>>>>>>> the initial phase of getting us all moving again?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>> http://www.anterotesis.com
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/anterotesis
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