[open-linguistics] Future home of Open Linguistics [IMPORTANT]

Mon Jan 20 11:21:42 UTC 2020

Dear Jorge,

no information about long-term maintenance, but I guess they wouldn't have
suggested that without such plans.

All we know is

"If you would like to switch the discussion to our forums at
https://discuss.okfn.org, let us know and we can help you to set up a
dedicated category. This platform helps keep things open and allows the
whole network to follow along, participate, and stay informed. If you like,
we could start a new forum category for the topic of your mailing list to
continue the discussion there."

So, all contributions would go into the general forum, you could filter for
the category if you're interested in open linguistics. We can apparently
also get a direct link to an overview page for the category. The Open
Science WG did that: https://discuss.okfn.org/c/working-groups/open-science.
For a registered user, it is possible to configure that this basically acts
like a mailing list (you need to enable "Emails/Mailing list mode" and add
the category under "Notifications/Categories/Watched"), but this needs to
be configured on an individual basis (by every user).

What I'm most concerned here about is that since 2013, we tended to talk
more about *linked* (open) data in/for linguistics (etc.) than about *open*
data in/for linguistics (I have no objections against changing that back,
the topic was just appealing to many participants), and with that scope,
we're quite far away from what other forum categories are about.

Best,
Christian

Am Mo., 20. Jan. 2020 um 12:01 Uhr schrieb Jorge Gracia <jgracia at fi.upm.es>:

> Dear Christian,
>
> Can you give more details about the Open Knowledge Forums option (
> https://discuss.okfn.org/) ? Is it expected to be maintained in the
> medium/long term?
>
> Best,
> Jorge
>
> El lun., 20 ene. 2020 a las 11:48, Christian Chiarcos (<
> christian.chiarcos at web.de>) escribió:
>
>> W3C Community Groups are an option, of course.
>>
>> Conditions for W3C CGs under https://www.w3.org/community/about/, also
>> cf. https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/compare/. A difference
>> to just a mailing list is that this is slightly more formal, that a CG is
>> normally working towards one (or more) Community Report(s). This means that
>> most CGs are much narrower in scope than the OWLG.
>>
>> I don't think any existing group would be an ideal match, and I'm not
>> sure whether W3C bureaucracy (even though minimal) and the technical appeal
>> won't scare off linguists.
>> As for creating a new one, I'm not sure how it takes to get one approved,
>> so we might not have the time to get it approved before this list is being
>> shut down, so we need an intermediate solution, at least.
>>
>> Best,
>> Christian
>>
>> Am Mo., 20. Jan. 2020 um 10:36 Uhr schrieb John P. McCrae <john at mccr.ae>:
>>
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> Google Groups (or Yahoo) seem to work well for many mailing lists,
>>> perhaps we could move there? Another option may be to move to being a new
>>> community group at W3C?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 06:07, Christian Chiarcos <
>>> christian.chiarcos at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> this is a reminder for the collection of hosting options
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11tMKQdn3HrB_o9zBaCMcQvSJfz-KVG_-6aJZEXtXy8s/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> and for participating to the telco planned for Wednesday, January 22, 13:00
>>>> CET, to decide by vote. We will announce the Hangouts link on Jan 21st. In
>>>> case you're not available on January 22, but would like to participate in
>>>> the vote, please email Bettina and me (or the mailing list) on January
>>>> 21st, with "VOTE" in the subject line. Independently from the vote, feel
>>>> free to express your opinion or to suggest alternatives any time.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>> PS: I am doing a backup of all public OWLG data on GitHub (
>>>> https://github.com/open-linguistics/, feel free to contribute), incl.
>>>> the mail archives, and I realized in that context that the original
>>>> announcement seems to have failed to be delivered. I didn't get a bounce,
>>>> so I guess it might just indicate that the OKF services are becoming
>>>> increasingly unstable. I hope this one gets through. Unfortunately, we
>>>> cannot postpone the schedule as have only 10 days to act now. Please join.
>>>> Apologies for the short notice.
>>>>
>>>> ------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------
>>>> Von: "Christian Chiarcos" <chiarcos at informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
>>>> An: "A list for those interested in open data in linguistics." <
>>>> open-linguistics at lists.okfn.org>, "Bettina Klimek" <
>>>> klimek at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
>>>> Kopie:
>>>> Betreff: Re: [open-linguistics] Future home of Open Linguistics
>>>> [IMPORTANT]
>>>> Datum: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 11:46:46 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Dear list members,
>>>>
>>>> as for migrating the OWLG mailing list, we have have explored several
>>>> options. The feedback we got from those who responded offlist was a
>>>> preference to maintain a mailing list. We collected the current hosting
>>>> options under
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11tMKQdn3HrB_o9zBaCMcQvSJfz-KVG_-6aJZEXtXy8s/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> .
>>>> Unfortunately, the Linguist List doesn't seem to be an option anymore,
>>>> which is why we extended the search for other alternatives beyond our
>>>> original schedule.
>>>>
>>>> In case you are aware of other options, please add them to this list
>>>> until
>>>> January 20th, and they will be given full consideration.
>>>>
>>>> We would suggest to have a brief telco on Wednesday, January 22, 13:00
>>>> CET, to decide by vote. We will announce the Hangouts link on Jan 21st.
>>>> In
>>>> case you're not available on January 22, but would like to participate
>>>> in
>>>> the vote, please email Bettina and me (or the mailing list) on January
>>>> 21st, with "VOTE" in the subject line. Independently from the vote, feel
>>>> free to express your opinion or to suggest alternatives any time.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Christian
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