[open-science] [Open-access] Hargreaves Report - urgent call for help with draftresponse

Fri Mar 2 16:06:42 UTC 2012

My timescale is roughly (I would appreciate help on some areas)
* draft a set of principles and protocol before the weekend. (Elsevier have
asked me for a telcom to discuss my textmining requirements. I replied that
my requirements were the same as everyone else's and that I would make the
results of the conversation Open. I offered them 2200 today but I suspect
that's too early. So I'll have a base by Sunday.
* Mail all the reps of publishers by Sunday evening announcing what we are
doing and inviting comments. Invite them to join the list. NOTE: This is
NOT a negotiation. This is a clarification or our rights and a request to
the publishers to agree them or to publicly disagree. I am NOT giving up
any territory.
* announce that we want their comments by <date>. My guess is that
2012-03-14 is a good date. If they are well-intentioned they can easily
answer YES. If they huff and pff then they aren't trying. After all they
set the conditions and they can remove them

* in parallel draft our submission
* collate the responses into the submission.

NOTE: The submissions will be further edited by Ben Hawes at IPO. He is
required to be objective. The intention is that the responses will be read
by the public and also by legislators. The legislators can change many
things without legislation. Legislation is heavier and will take a long
time but may be necessary.

NOTE: It is Europe who imposes NC on textmining. Nonetheless it is worth
making the cases for CC-BY

NOTE: I am meeting Neelie Kroes (Digital Economy, Europe) next month, I hope

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Mark MacGillivray <mark at cottagelabs.com>wrote:

> I really want to help on this, but I am totally out of time all next
> week. If we have until the 21st though, I will get on it after that.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Diane!
> >
> > So we need to have something together by 21 March, but essentially as
> soon
> > as possible. Peter Murray-Rust is currently collating publisher policies
> to
> > text mining for the response so may have a better idea what time scale
> would
> > be reasonable to try and collect all our material.
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Diane Cabell <dc at icommons.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.ipo.gov.uk/pro-policy/consult/consult-live/consult-2011-copyright.htm
> >>
> >> 21 Mar
> >>
> >> For some reason, this isn't displaying in Chrome, but does show up in
> >> Firefox.  Or maybe it's me???
> >>
> >> dc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jenny,
> >>
> >> It's not clear from email, or from the links you cite what the deadline
> >> is, or by when (presumably earlier) you need comments.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: open-science-bounces at lists.okfn.org
> >> [mailto:open-science-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Molloy
> >> Sent: 02 March 2012 06:58
> >> To: open-science at lists.okfn.org; open-access at lists.okfn.org
> >> Subject: [open-science] Hargreaves Report - urgent call for help with
> >> draftresponse
> >>
> >> Dear All
> >>
> >> A while ago, the working group started a response to the Hargreaves
> >> Report http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ipreview
> >> This report could lead to substantial changes to UK copyright law,
> >> particularly with regard to text mining of the scientific literature
> and we
> >> feel that a response is both necessary and urgent.
> >>
> >> You can contribute to the draft response
> >> here http://okfnpad.org/sciencewg-hargreaves and we would be grateful
> for
> >> any and all input, particularly any data and hard figures as well as
> >> personal experience surrounding access to the literature for text
> mining or
> >> the possible contribution that text mining could make to scientific
> >> discovery and the economy.
> >>
> >> If you wish to discuss points in detail, you can use either this email
> >> thread copying both open-science and open-access, make notes within the
> text
> >> on the Etherpad or in the chat window on the right of the pad.
> >>
> >> Thank you very much in advance for your help!
> >>
> >> Jenny
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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