[open-science] [Open-access] Nature Scientific Data platform and doing science with open data

Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.kish at gmail.com
Fri Apr 5 14:41:19 UTC 2013

I am with Ross.

Why wouldn't I just put my data in figshare or Dryad and be done with it? Creating these "Data Descriptors" seems like inventing a new kind of publication that wasn't necessarily needed. And the differential pricing for different licenses is just goofy signifying god knows what -- are different licenses worth different amounts? This sends just the wrong kind of message.

On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's not all great news...
> They're doing their usual NPG quirk of charging more if the
> author chooses to publish under CC BY rather than CC BY-NC (they're
> offering a 'choice' of licences).
> see http://www.nature.com/scientificdata/open-access/
> £585 for more restrictive licencing & £650 for CC BY.
> This will of course help authors to choose the cheaper more restrictive
> option :(
> I've blogged about this before:
> http://rossmounce.co.uk/2012/11/07/gold-oa-pricewatch/
> There's also no absolute guarantee the data will be open data as per
> http://opendefinition.org/ either. The data will go to appropriate
> community databases in some instances, and some of these may not be open.
> So, yes it's good that Nature care about data, and may offer some of it as
> open data - but unfortunately I think it's quite likely that it won't all
> be open, and there are better more open, less expensive data journals out
> there.
> Best,
> Ross
> On 5 April 2013 15:06, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>> This is great news. Perhaps we should put something about this on the main
>> OKF blog - in particular noting how we hope this will be explicitly
>> encouraging researchers to publish data openly, as per the Panton
>> Principles?
>> On 5 April 2013 14:36, Jenny Molloy <jenny.molloy at okfn.org> wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>> Many of you will have seen this recent press release, but for those who
>>> haven't:
>>> http://www.nature.com/press_releases/scientificdata.html
>>> This ties in with a recent blog post on doing science with open data,
>>> from Tom Heath at the Open Data Institute, looking at the questions
>>> * What are the implications of 'doing science' with open data?
>>> * What changes are required in how we approach scientific methods and
>>> findings based on open data?
>>> http://www.theodi.org/blog/on-data-science-with-open-data
>>> Your thoughts and comments welcome!
>>> Jenny
>>> NPG to launch Scientific Data to help scientists publish and reuse
>>> research data
>>> Nature Publishing Group (NPG) today is pleased to announce the Spring
>>> 2014 launch of Scientific Data. Open for submissions this autumn, Scientific
>>> Data is a new open-access, online-only platform for the publication of
>>> descriptions of scientifically valuable datasets. Scientific Data will
>>> initially focus on experimental datasets from the life, biomedical and
>>> environmental science communities with future plans to expand to other
>>> fields in the natural sciences.
>>> Scientific Data will introduce and publish a new type of content called
>>> Data Descriptors: peer-reviewed, scientific publications that provide
>>> detailed descriptions of experimental and observational datasets. Data
>>> Descriptors will be a combination of traditional scientific publication
>>> content and structured information curated in-house, and are designed to
>>> maximize reuse and enable searching, linking and data mining. Data
>>> Descriptors may be associated with articles from a broad range of journals.
>>> "Over recent years researchers, funders and learned societies alike have
>>> been calling for new ways to make scientific research, and research data,
>>> more available, reusable and reproducible," says Jason Wilde, Nature
>>> Publishing Group Business Development Director. "Scientific Data's
>>> central mission is to help foster the sharing and re-use of the data
>>> underpinning scientific research."
>>> "Scientific Data will allow for the formal peer-review, publication and
>>> citation of data sets and will provide a real opportunity to promote open
>>> data and promote the re-use of data held by NERC and other research
>>> organisations," says Mark Thorley, Head of Science Information at the
>>> Natural Environment Research Council and Chair of the Research Councils UK
>>> Research Outputs Network.
>>> Scientific Data gives credit through a citable publication, for
>>> depositing and sharing research data. Data Description will be accessible
>>> and searchable via the Scientific Data online data platform, under a
>>> Creative Commons license. The actual data files will be stored in one or
>>> more public, community-recognized systems. The full release of Data
>>> Description and associated data will be verified as part of the peer-review
>>> process. Where a community recognized repository does not exist, Scientific
>>> Data supports the deposit of the data into a more general repository
>>> such as Dryad and Figshare. All accepted data descriptors will be published
>>> on payment of an article-processing charge (APC) that will also cover the
>>> Data Description curation process.
>>> Susanna-Assunta Sansone, Associate Director and Principal Investigator at
>>> the University of Oxford e-Research Centre, has worked with the NPG team
>>> for the past months to define the Data Description’s concept; she has now
>>> been appointed Honorary Academic Editor of Scientific Data. She will
>>> work closely with the Advisory Panel which is comprised of senior
>>> scientists, data repository representatives, bio-curators, librarians, and
>>> funders who guide the policies, standards, and editorial scope.
>>> "The ongoing conversation around data curation, sharing and publication
>>> has become increasingly exciting as various organisations have moved to
>>> encourage and in some cases support the sharing and reuse of data in
>>> context," says Honorary Academic Editor Sansone. "To inform the internal
>>> development of Scientific Data, I will continue to stay abreast of the
>>> fast-paced fields of data management and scholarly communication."
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