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Tom,

Wefunder profiled us and we've been getting quite a few interested
investors that want to invest in Microryza through Wefunder, so Wefunder
definitely works! Whether or not we accept those investments is a different
story. We don't know what we will do for our next round--and we won't need
to raise another round for a long time.

Yes, they put in a ton of work in producing a very nicely polished
profile--their team is awesome. If anyone is interested in crowdfunding for
their start-up I'm happy to put you in touch with the Wefunder guys!

Cindy

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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:41:32 -0700
> From: Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> To: open-science at lists.okfn.org
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> Hey there,
>
> I'm one of the founders of microryza.com. I second what Heather said, can
> the Open Science Space team identify yourself or send me an e-mail at
> cindy at microryza.com? I'd absolutely love to chat more! We love connecting
> with anyone that's interested in crowdfunding for research.
>
> At Microryza, we just raised a substantial amount of funding and we care
> very much about openness and transparency--look for changes there in the
> coming months. We're a team of open science geeks from the University of
> Washington.
>
> Cindy
>
> P.S. We're always looking for smart people to join our team (paid)! Just
> shoot me an e-mail. We're from Seattle, but now located in Silicon Valley.
>
> --
> Cindy Wu
> Co-Founder | Microryza <http://www.microryza.com/>
> cindy at microryza.com
> @cindywu123 <http://www.twitter.com/>
> 425-533-8126
>
> Read about Microryza's founding story here <https://wefunder.com/microryza
> >.
>
>
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> >    1. Re: Science Crowd Funding (Heather Morrison)
> >    2. Re: Science Crowd Funding (Peter Murray-Rust)
> >    3. Re: Science Crowd Funding (Heather Morrison)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:51:28 -0700
> > From: Heather Morrison <hgmorris at sfu.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> > To: Open Science Space <info at opensciencespace.com>
> > Cc: open-science at lists.okfn.org
> > Message-ID: <4A9D8332-A576-43FC-88B9-A442BC13933A at sfu.ca>
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> >
> > In the interests of openness and transparency, can you say who you are,
> > Open Science Space? Assuming there are humans behind this project? :)
> >
> > Your e-mail is organizational, not identifying a person. Your About Us /
> > Meet our Team page does not mention any humans.
> >
> > Contact Us is a web form with no human contact information.
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Heather Morrison, PhD
> > Librarian & Academic
> > The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
> > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2013-04-09, at 3:31 AM, Open Science Space wrote:
> >
> > > Would anyone be interested in crowdfunding for science at a smaller,
> > local level? ? see http://science.funding2013.com/
> > >
> > > Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
> > >
> > > Open Science Space
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > open-science mailing list
> > > open-science at lists.okfn.org
> > > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
> > > Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:34:27 +0100
> > From: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> > To: Heather Morrison <hgmorris at sfu.ca>
> > Cc: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> > Message-ID:
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> > If you go to the site http://www.opensciencespace.com/
> > you will find a very large amount of information including a pointer to
> > http://blogs.nature.com/naturejobs/2012/10/25/who-gets-funded-you-decide
> > which reports in great detail
> >
> >
> > <quote>Erik Cox, founder of a project called The Open Science
> > Space<http://www.opensciencespace.com/>which hopes to make science
> > more transparent, is currently raising funds to
> > launch a crowdfunding site dedicated to science-based projects. We asked
> > him to explain what open funding is all about, and how it can benefit
> > science.
> >
> >
> >
> > ?TRADITIONALLY finance for research is accessible to scientists through
> > quite limited channels such as research councils. The grant application
> > process can be long and laborious, and can often end in rejection or
> > require lengthy modification. It is also a process which goes unseen by
> the
> > public who only get to know about individual research when a mainstream
> > media outlet picks up on a story. ...
> >
> > </quote>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Heather Morrison <hgmorris at sfu.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> > > In the interests of openness and transparency, can you say who you are,
> > > Open Science Space? Assuming there are humans behind this project? :)
> > >
> > > Your e-mail is organizational, not identifying a person. Your About Us
> /
> > > Meet our Team page does not mention any humans.
> > >
> > > Contact Us is a web form with no human contact information.
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > > Heather Morrison, PhD
> > > Librarian & Academic
> > > The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
> > > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2013-04-09, at 3:31 AM, Open Science Space wrote:
> > >
> > > > Would anyone be interested in crowdfunding for science at a smaller,
> > > local level? ? see http://science.funding2013.com/
> > > >
> > > > Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Open Science Space
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > open-science mailing list
> > > > open-science at lists.okfn.org
> > > > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
> > > > Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Murray-Rust
> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> > University of Cambridge
> > CB2 1EW, UK
> > +44-1223-763069
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:47:28 -0700
> > From: Heather Morrison <hgmorris at sfu.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> > To: Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
> > Cc: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
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> > Noted. But you have to read the Nature article to get the name of a
> person
> > - there is nothing on the organization's website.
> >
> > Do you want to contribute money to an organization with no contact listed
> > on its website, or have your project listed on a website?
> >
> > I don't mean to suggest that this is a fly-by-night operation, rather the
> > website might give this impression. Open Science Space (Eric Cox??) did
> ask
> > for suggestions.
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > On 2013-04-09, at 10:34 AM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> >
> > > If you go to the site http://www.opensciencespace.com/
> > > you will find a very large amount of information including a pointer to
> > >
> http://blogs.nature.com/naturejobs/2012/10/25/who-gets-funded-you-decide
> > > which reports in great detail
> > >
> > >
> > > <quote>Erik Cox, founder of a project called The Open Science Space
> > which hopes to make science more transparent, is currently raising funds
> to
> > launch a crowdfunding site dedicated to science-based projects. We asked
> > him to explain what open funding is all about, and how it can benefit
> > science.
> > >
> > >
> > > ?TRADITIONALLY finance for research is accessible to scientists through
> > quite limited channels such as research councils. The grant application
> > process can be long and laborious, and can often end in rejection or
> > require lengthy modification. It is also a process which goes unseen by
> the
> > public who only get to know about individual research when a mainstream
> > media outlet picks up on a story. ...
> > >
> > > </quote>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Heather Morrison <hgmorris at sfu.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > In the interests of openness and transparency, can you say who you are,
> > Open Science Space? Assuming there are humans behind this project? :)
> > >
> > > Your e-mail is organizational, not identifying a person. Your About Us
> /
> > Meet our Team page does not mention any humans.
> > >
> > > Contact Us is a web form with no human contact information.
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > > Heather Morrison, PhD
> > > Librarian & Academic
> > > The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
> > > http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2013-04-09, at 3:31 AM, Open Science Space wrote:
> > >
> > > > Would anyone be interested in crowdfunding for science at a smaller,
> > local level? ? see http://science.funding2013.com/
> > > >
> > > > Your thoughts would be most appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Open Science Space
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > open-science mailing list
> > > > open-science at lists.okfn.org
> > > > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-science
> > > > Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/open-science
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Murray-Rust
> > > Reader in Molecular Informatics
> > > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> > > University of Cambridge
> > > CB2 1EW, UK
> > > +44-1223-763069
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:14:33 +0200
> From: Daniel Lombra?a Gonz?lez <teleyinex at gmail.com>
> Subject: [open-science] Weekly Citizen Science Meeting
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> *Announcement*
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> The Open Knowledge Foundation & Citizen Cyberscience Center are holding
> regular meetings about Citizen Science & microtasking every Thursday at 16h
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>
> In the upcoming meeting tomorrow we will be hosting the meeting at Medialab
> Prado talking in general about Citizen Science the applications and tools
> that can be used to create your own citizen science project.
>
> As usual discussion of all things Citizen Science, Crowdcrafting &
> Microtasking in an open context is thoroughly welcome and participation is
> encouraged.
>
> If you would like to join in with these discussions on the day, please
> sign-up on Google+ here:
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> https://plus.google.com/events/cdp57f30q01mjur5fm7q91kaofo
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> The next meeting will begin tomorrow, Thursday 11th April, 16h UTC.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:56:57 -0400
> From: Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> To: Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com>
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> It'll be interesting to see how many of these crowdfunding sites the market
> can support and whether we really need a different one for each little
> niche.  Both Microryza  <https://wefunder.com/microryza> ($162,000) and
> The
> Open Science Space
> <
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-open-science-space--2?website_name=opensciencespace
> >
> ($40)
> are themselves crowdfunded, so why not just use a generic platform like
> Kickstarter or IndieAGoGo for science/research too?  I smell consolidation
> in the wind.
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm one of the founders of microryza
> >
>
> "Magic School Bus + Bill Nye the Science Guy + NOVA special + National
> Geographic = Microryza"
>
> Darn!  I was hoping that was going to turn out to be a cool acronym instead
> of just a string of words.
>
> Tom
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:00:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Cindy Wu" <cindy at microryza.com>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> To: "Tom Morris" <tfmorris at gmail.com>
> Cc: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
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> Hey Tom, i just want to clarify that microryza is not crowdfunded.
> Wefunder's just shows the amounts we've raised offline. We used traditional
> methods to fund microryza a combination of investment and grants.
>
>
> Although, crowdfunding is an interesting option for Startups and I am a
> fan of Wefunder.
>
>
> Cindy
>
> ?
> Sent from Mailbox for iPhone
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It'll be interesting to see how many of these crowdfunding sites the
> market
> > can support and whether we really need a different one for each little
> > niche.  Both Microryza  <https://wefunder.com/microryza> ($162,000) and
> The
> > Open Science Space
> > <
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-open-science-space--2?website_name=opensciencespace
> >
> > ($40)
> > are themselves crowdfunded, so why not just use a generic platform like
> > Kickstarter or IndieAGoGo for science/research too?  I smell
> consolidation
> > in the wind.
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm one of the founders of microryza
> >>
> > "Magic School Bus + Bill Nye the Science Guy + NOVA special + National
> > Geographic = Microryza"
> > Darn!  I was hoping that was going to turn out to be a cool acronym
> instead
> > of just a string of words.
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:31:36 -0400
> From: Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Science Crowd Funding
> To: Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com>
> Cc: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
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> Cindy - thanks for the clarification.  I definitely misinterpreted that.
>  So you'll be using WeFunder for the next round or they just profiled you
> because you were also in the crowd funding space?  They certainly put a ton
> of work into producing a very nicely polished profile for you!
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Tom, i just want to clarify that microryza is not crowdfunded.
> > Wefunder's just shows the amounts we've raised offline. We used
> traditional
> > methods to fund microryza a combination of investment and grants.
> >
> > Although, crowdfunding is an interesting option for Startups and I am a
> > fan of Wefunder.
> >
> > Cindy
> > ?
> > Sent from Mailbox <https://bit.ly/SZvoJe> for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> It'll be interesting to see how many of these crowdfunding sites the
> >> market can support and whether we really need a different one for each
> >> little niche.  Both Microryza  <https://wefunder.com/microryza>
> ($162,000)
> >> and The Open Science Space <
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-open-science-space--2?website_name=opensciencespace>
> ($40)
> >> are themselves crowdfunded, so why not just use a generic platform like
> >> Kickstarter or IndieAGoGo for science/research too?  I smell
> consolidation
> >> in the wind.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Cindy Wu <cindy at microryza.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I'm one of the founders of microryza
> >>>
> >>
> >> "Magic School Bus + Bill Nye the Science Guy + NOVA special + National
> >> Geographic = Microryza"
> >>
> >> Darn!  I was hoping that was going to turn out to be a cool acronym
> >> instead of just a string of words.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:57:12 -0700
> From: Jonathan Dugan <dugan_okfn at biocontact.org>
> Subject: [open-science] Mike Eisen responds to NYT's anti-open-access
>         story
> To: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
> Message-ID: <20130410215712.GC20969 at biocontact.org>
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> http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1354
>
>
> :: 'suggesting, as the article does, that scam conferences/journals
> exist because of the rise of open access publishing is ridiculous.'
>
> and
>
> :: 'if Gina Kolata and the NYT are really concerned about scams in
> science publishing, they should look into the $10 BILLION DOLLARS of
> largely public money that subscription publishers take in every year
> in return for giving the scientific community access to the 90% of
> papers that are not published in open access journals'
>
>
>
> Original:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/for-scientists-an-exploding-world-of-pseudo-academia.html
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan
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> 650 646 5369
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>
> PS (I work for PLOS) Bio on me: http://biocontact.org/jmdugan
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:31:08 -0700
> From: Heather Morrison <hgmorris at sfu.ca>
> Subject: Re: [open-science] Mike Eisen responds to NYT's
>         anti-open-access        story
> To: Jonathan Dugan <dugan_okfn at biocontact.org>
> Cc: open-science <open-science at lists.okfn.org>
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> Michael's reply is excellent.
>
> I am wondering whether there is more to this than meets the eye at first.
> Why single out PLoS as an example? If anything, PLoS was an early leader in
> competing with the high-end journals like Nature and Science - and now it
> is the top publishers like Nature that are emulating PLoS ONE.
>
> One possibility is that open access discussions are underway in the UK and
> the US. In the past, whenever such discussions have taken place it has not
> been unusual to see highly misleading information appear.
>
> In 2006, representatives from Elsevier, Wiley, and the American Chemical
> Society met with "the pit bull of public relations", Eric Dezenhall. The
> NYT article seems to reflect the kind of strategy employed by Dezenhall.
>
> As reported by Jim Giles in Nature:
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v445/n7126/full/445347a.html
>
> Some of Dezenhall's advice:
> "The consultant advised them to focus on simple messages, such as "Public
> access equals government censorship". He hinted that the publishers should
> attempt to equate traditional publishing models with peer review, and
> "paint a picture of what the world would look like without peer-reviewed
> articles".
>
> The latter suggests the kind of strategy behind the NYT article - paint
> the open access world as equated with low quality. I wonder if anyone at
> the NYT would be interested in doing some digging to find out where the
> ideas for this article came from? This might make for an interesting
> investigation!
>
> best,
>
> Heather Morrison
>
> On 2013-04-10, at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Dugan wrote:
>
> >
> > http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1354
> >
> >
> > :: 'suggesting, as the article does, that scam conferences/journals
> > exist because of the rise of open access publishing is ridiculous.'
> >
> > and
> >
> > :: 'if Gina Kolata and the NYT are really concerned about scams in
> > science publishing, they should look into the $10 BILLION DOLLARS of
> > largely public money that subscription publishers take in every year
> > in return for giving the scientific community access to the 90% of
> > papers that are not published in open access journals'
> >
> >
> >
> > Original:
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/for-scientists-an-exploding-world-of-pseudo-academia.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jonathan
> >
> > 650 646 5369
> >
> >
> > PS (I work for PLOS) Bio on me: http://biocontact.org/jmdugan
> >
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