[open-science] Some ideas what is missing in open science from OpenCon 2014

Mon Dec 8 04:39:33 UTC 2014

Hi!

No no. This is completely aligned with the topic I opened here. So I also
believe we should do first national level index.

And aggregator of blogs. And aggregator of calendars with open science
calendars and events.

Mitar

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Rayna <rayna.st at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for these suggestions, indeed.
>
> And yes, I was referring to the Open Data Index as an example of what we
> could do at the national level. This is already complex enough to figure
> out so I would give it a try and see how it works (or not :) ) before
> attempting to structure anything around a more local investigation and
> evaluation.
>
> I suggest we fork this discussion so as to not hijack Mitar's thread :)
> Rayna
>
> 2014-11-23 19:05 GMT+01:00 Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks Shauna, great suggestion - is anyone on the list from COS and
>> could comment if these activities might fit with their work?
>>
>> In terms of the census, Mitar's presentation focused on national
>> government policies, and I assume Rayna was also commenting on this level.
>> The Open Data Index is national and there is an Open Data Census which is
>> city level, so I guess the equivalent for science would be institutions.
>> This would also be very interesting, but lots more work!
>>
>> Do link us to your work on the journal questions though if possibke, as
>> I'm sure that will be of interest either way.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Shauna Gordon-McKeon <shaunagm at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> It's worth asking the Center for Open Science about hosting some of
>>> these projects.  As for the census, who would be being polled?  People?
>>> Institutions?  Journals?  Or countries, like in the example?  I am
>>> potentially interested in this project, and have done some work towards
>>> defining questions at the journal level.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Rayna <rayna.st at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the insights :)
>>>> I've been thinking for sometime now about a science.census.okfn.org
>>>> It will quite possibly be structured in a way that differs from the
>>>> current census but the idea is there.
>>>>
>>>> The question is what to include: data yes, publications yes, higher ed
>>>> education materials perhaps, protocols yes, anything else?
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest we spend the next weeks discussing this over email and
>>>> through confcalls.
>>>>
>>>> Who's in? :)
>>>>
>>>> Rayna
>>>>  Le 23 nov. 2014 13:28, "Jenny Molloy" <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mitar
>>>>>
>>>>> Fantastic! I absolutely agree on all of these points and would like to
>>>>> invite you and others on the mailing list to help make them happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Blog aggregation*
>>>>> Svetlana also raised the point about the blog aggregator and we looked
>>>>> into options, SubjectSeeker seemed favourable, but there was also a
>>>>> question about whether we could enact the same functionality in WordPress
>>>>> as this is already set up on Open Knowledge servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Status: Need a sandbox to play with the technology. Mike Chelen
>>>>> offered to assist with this and I will put him and Svetlana in contact
>>>>> again - who else would be interested in playing with solutions for an open
>>>>> science 'planet'?
>>>>> Make yourself known on the forum:
>>>>> http://discuss.okfn.org/t/planet-open-science/94
>>>>>
>>>>> *Calendar*
>>>>> I've been talking to James Baster at Open Tech Calendar, which seems
>>>>> to have exactly the right functionality (community created content, anyone
>>>>> can create and edit events, it can pull in from various sites, everything
>>>>> can be output as open data). Now we *could* go right ahead and set this up
>>>>> for open science, the open source code is here:
>>>>> http://ican.openacalendar.org/download.html
>>>>> This would however involve having somewhere to host it and a
>>>>> maintainer as sysadmin capacity at Open Knowledge is unfortunately finite!
>>>>> James offers a hosted version, but we only have a £150 annual working group
>>>>> budget which doesn't get us very far so basically we're looking for:
>>>>> a) An organisation or group of individuals who have some server space
>>>>> and sysadmin capacity to host and maintain this service.
>>>>> b) An organisation or group of individuals who see it as a valuable
>>>>> service for the community and would be willing to chip in on the hosted
>>>>> version.
>>>>>
>>>>> There have been discussions about how it might integrate with an *Open
>>>>> Knowledge Directory*, this project has had two hangouts to discuss so
>>>>> far and will continue to meet and works towards a directory for people
>>>>> interested in open knowledge (inc. open science) worldwide. You'd all be
>>>>> welcome to join this discussion.
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15_qPe-F6HErzobh36wZgG-4aQec6mkbuykLEdRzPS9E/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>> I think it is important as there are 700 of us here on the mailing
>>>>> list and most of us have little idea who everyone is and what country
>>>>> they're in.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Open Access/Science Census*
>>>>> This was discussed at OKFest and a wiki page was created, but so far
>>>>> no one has indicated an interest in taking this forward:
>>>>> http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_@ccess/Open_Access_Census
>>>>> The Open Data Index is still ongoing this year, but once that has died
>>>>> down I am happy to talk to the maintainers at Open Knowledge and look into
>>>>> repurposing the system (which already has contributions, reviewing,
>>>>> visualisations etc set up at http://global.census.okfn.org/).
>>>>> You had some great questions already in your presentation.
>>>>> OECD have been doing a survey of their member countries about OA and
>>>>> open science policies and are likely to release this very soon (Giulia Ajmone
>>>>> Marsan is the main contact). We could likely include this information as a
>>>>> starting point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks so much for making all of these points at OpenCon and I hope
>>>>> from now into the New Year we can really take some positive steps to
>>>>> filling these gaps in the open access and open science community. This is
>>>>> not an Open Knowledge organisation specific set of projects, we should be
>>>>> aiming to bring everyone together and not fragment or duplicate effort so
>>>>> if you manage an open science community and are already considering these
>>>>> tools or already maintain a system that could scale then do please weigh in
>>>>> on the discussion!
>>>>>
>>>>> Excited to see where we can take this - I'd love to see at a glance
>>>>> what open science events are happening in South America next month and who
>>>>> is blogging about reproducibility and open data this week. It's do-able now
>>>>> but not in a way that is either simple or conducive to sharing and
>>>>> community cohesion - we can definitely do better!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Mitar <mmitar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I presented few ideas what is missing in open science and open access
>>>>>> community at OpenCon 2014:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://mitar.tnode.com/post/103272799066/presenting-some-ideas-of-what-is-missing-in-open
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitar
>>>>>>
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