[open-science] "Openness" in job announcements and hiring guidelines - help!

[Daniel Mietchen]

Hi Stacy,
that's an interesting document. I left some feedback, but think
sharing so late in the drafting process is far from optimal - it
limits the "work out loud" kind of productive interaction that you
describe.
>From the doc itself, it is also not clear where it is destined to be
submitted: I suppose some internal OSI process but could not find any
relevant information (e.g. a call for proposals) on the OSI website.
Cheers,
Daniel


On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Stacy Konkiel <stacy at altmetric.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> As promised, here's the final draft of the OSI 2017 working group report on
> promoting openness in professional advancement scenarios.
>
> We welcome your comments on the report, especially where you've got
> resources or relevant citations to share. We're submitting the report
> tomorrow (Friday) at 3 pm Mountain/Denver time, so please add your thoughts
> by then for them to be included in the final-final draft.
>
>
> All best,
> Stacy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Peter Suber <peter.suber at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'll just add that when we tag job ads for the Open Access Tracking
>> Project, we realize that the ads may soon disappear. So we try to copy some
>> the major points from the ad into the tag record. If you click through on
>> some you'll see what I mean. But we almost never try to capture the full
>> text of the ad. Here's the link to the tag library one more time.
>> http://tagteam.harvard.edu/hubs/oatp/tag/oa.jobs
>>
>> BTW, Chrome now has an extension to save any web page to the Internet
>> Archive. If anyone is systematically studying job ads, I'd recommend saving
>> them to the IA, both for the permalinks and for the full texts.
>>
>>      Peter
>>
>> Peter Suber
>> bit.ly/petersuber
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Stacy Konkiel <stacy at altmetric.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, all!
>>>
>>> Daniel, we'd be happy to share the draft when it's a bit more cleaned
>>> up--right now it's a very rough outline that might not make much sense to
>>> people beyond our working group. But once it's ready, we'd be very keen to
>>> have your expert feedback on some of the proposals we're putting forth. Ours
>>> was a small group, so I've got the feeling we're missing some much needed
>>> perspective from the Open Science community--esp. those working outside of
>>> the US.
>>>
>>> Bianca and Peter, thanks so much for those links. I've actually been in
>>> touch with Juan about his project on P&T requirements and he's agreed to
>>> share his results with OSI moving forward, so we're eager for those to
>>> develop. The job descriptions and the policy draft you've both provided will
>>> be invaluable.
>>>
>>> Any other feedback/thoughts from others on the list would be quite
>>> welcome!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Stacy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Daniel Mietchen
>>> <daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Peter Suber <peter.suber at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > However, because many (most?) employers take down their ads when the
>>>> > positions are filled, don't be surprised if many of the links are now
>>>> > dead.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, so we should perhaps include the persistence of job ad links as
>>>> an additional criterion when assessing openness.
>>>> d.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stacy Konkiel
>>> Director of Research & Education at Altmetric
>>>      working from New Mexico, USA
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Stacy Konkiel
> Director of Research & Education at Altmetric
>      working from New Mexico, USA