[open-science] Why are we leaving it to Google?
Peter Murray-Rust
pm286 at cam.ac.uk
Thu Sep 27 21:31:12 UTC 2018
Perhaps we should start to canvas the more moderate publishers - e.g. Royal
Society (sic).
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:58 PM Peter Kraker <pkraker at openknowledgemaps.org>
wrote:
> Thanks Peter! And I completely agree - this creates a huge barrier to
> market entry that makes it harder - and in some cases impossible - for open
> infrastructures to catch up.
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
> Am 27/09/2018 um 18:14 schrieb Peter Murray-Rust:
>
> Excellent article - I tried to reply but the Elephant trashed it.
> The worst aspect for me is the differential access to create indexes of
> publisher and other sites. Google gets treated like royalty where we (who
> are often technically better) get banned or get threats. For example I
> could index much of today's chemistry but I am forbidden.
>
> P.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:58 PM Peter Kraker <
> pkraker at openknowledgemaps.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> thank you for the thought-provoking discussion, shows of support and
>> practical proposals around #DontLeaveItToGoogle. In the meantime, I have
>> been interviewed by Elephant in the Lab about the campaign's motivations
>> and goals. You can find it here:
>> http://elephantinthelab.org/google-and-research-data/
>>
>> I'd be interested in your feedback and comments!
>>
>> Best,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 10/09/2018 um 15:29 schrieb Peter Kraker:
>> > As you may have heard, Google is building a search engine for datasets
>> > (
>> https://www.blog.google/products/search/making-it-easier-discover-datasets/
>> ).
>> > This means yet another proprietary index on top of our own data that
>> > nobody can reuse - and another inferior list-based interface that will
>> > be pushed onto scientists by Google's sheer market dominance.
>> >
>> > At the same time, there is no funding for a community-driven open source
>> > alternative. We should not leave the field to Google, or science will be
>> > poorer for it! We finally need to invest in a true open science
>> > contender for research data discovery. This would bring meaningful
>> > competition to this space and drive innovation.
>> >
>> > This is why we have launched the #DontLeaveItToGoogle campaign. I
>> > encourage you to add your own voice to the discussion using this
>> > hashtag. It’s time to change the way we discover research - not
>> > perpetuate the same proprietary model time and time again!
>> >
>> > https://twitter.com/PeterKraker/status/1039122274518007808
>> > https://twitter.com/PeterKraker/status/1039122276623503360
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Peter
>> >
>>
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Peter Murray-Rust
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University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
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