[open-science] OKFN Open Science Mailing List will close on 31 Jan 2020 - where to next?

Jason Moore moorepants at gmail.com
Sun Nov 17 19:35:28 UTC 2019

I agree with Tom. It should be publicly archived.

I also am generally thumbs down to mailing lists moving to lots of
different website forums. I think participation will go down because you
now have to visit tons of websites to interact instead of a single email
client. And these websites are unlikely to be archived too.


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:29 AM Tom Morris <tfmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> That doesn't speak very well of OK* as stewards of open knowledge if
> they're trashing the list archives.
> One archiving service to consider is "The Mail Archive
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#import>". They provide zero
> official guarantees but have been successfully running a free public mail
> archive for over 20 years. It looks like okfn-discuss is archived
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/okfn-discuss@lists.okfn.org/info.html>
> there, so the original announcement
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/okfn-discuss@lists.okfn.org/msg00374.html>
> of the open-science list is still available there.
> Tom
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Dear All
>> Open Knowledge Foundation will be closing down their mailman lists by
>> January 31st, 2020 (I copy below the reasons for the decision for those who
>> are interested, I was emailed along with a couple of others because we're
>> "list owners" on mailman). Instead they will focus on offering a Discourse
>> forum (https://discuss.okfn.org) which already has an open science
>> category: https://discuss.okfn.org/c/working-groups/open-science
>> There are two things for members of this list to think about:
>> 1 - where are the important conversations on open science happening now?
>> What new lists should we join as this one closes and are there gaps that
>> need to be filled?
>> 2 - where to preserve the list archives? Open Knowledge Foundation do not
>> plan to do so publicly and there is value (I think) in preserving
>> conversations dating back 12 years to a time when open science was at a
>> completely different level of development. If anyone has ideas or could
>> help with archiving that would be great - I have asked for a copy to be
>> kept but I don't know in what form it will arrive!
>> As a very early member of this list I think it played an important role
>> in developing an open science community that has spun into many active and
>> exciting communities around the world. Moving on is not a bad thing and
>> there are so many more communication channels to connect on open science
>> topics than back in 2008 - I'd love to hear your recommendations!
>> Jenny
>> The decision has come about for three reasons:
>>    1. Managing the mailing lists and keeping the infrastructure up to
>>    date represents an effort in terms of resources and administration time
>>    that Open Knowledge Foundation is unable to meet going forward.
>>    2. GDPR: EU legislation now requires us to have an active and current
>>    knowledge of the data held on our websites, as well as the consent of the
>>    subscribers regarding the use of their personal data, to ensure GDPR
>>    compliance. Unfortunately, Mailman mailing lists don’t comply with this
>>    Directive, which means we can’t use this tool any more.
>>    3. We are currently implementing a new strategy within Open Knowledge
>>    Foundation which will focus the organisation on several key themes, namely
>>    Education, Health and Work. We want to keep fostering conversations but let
>>    groups choose what the best platform is for that.
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