[open-sustainability] Carbon Disclosure Project (CDP)

Thu Feb 7 21:25:21 UTC 2013

Hi there,

This thread and previous one are of high interest to me. I've worked for a
while for ICLEI-Local Governments for Sustainability. They also collect
climate data, but from cities/local governments. And they kind of compete
(sometime collaborate) with CDP in collecting cities data.

During my time there I advocated for open data and try to explore
crowdsourcing options for developing GHG emissions software. The main
reasons why I failed is 1) my limited technical skills to be able to make a
concrete convincing proposal; 2) the issue that some cities don't feel
comfortable in opening all their data; 3) the interrogation on how to
develop a business model with open data.
So now, what is there is this website where you will find only very
aggregated data in PDFs. Still it might of interest to some of you.
http://citiesclimateregistry.org/

Maybe this feeds this thread!

Kind regards,

Adrien

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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:

> Excellent - thanks very much for flagging this up Chris.
>
> Out of interest are all AMEE datasets on Github or is it just some of
> them? Would still be great to trawl through them and document licenses at
> some point to figure out which are open...
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Chris Adams <chris.adams at amee.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For what it's worth, amee ended up doing something similar to aggregate
>> the 2009 CDP data. It's not particularly uptodate, but it might be a nice
>> starting point:
>>
>> Here's the raw data:
>>
>> https://github.com/AMEE/datasets/blob/master/business/benchmark/cdp/data.csv
>>
>> Here's the documentation explaining the methodology:
>>
>> https://github.com/AMEE/datasets/blob/master/business/benchmark/cdp/documentation.creole
>>
>> Happy to chat tomorrow, or make introductions at amee if anyone is for
>> meeting up to take this further.
>>
>> C
>>
>>
>>
>> C
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 17:56, Fırat Gelbal <firatgelbal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maya,
>>>
>>> There are several ways to convert PDFs:
>>> http://helpmeinvestigate.posterous.com/7-ways-to-get-data-out-of-pdfs
>>>
>>> http://www.investintech.com/prod_a2e_pro.htm
>>>
>>> Although I don't have experience myself, I heard none of the methods is
>>> perfect. If you are not very lucky, there would be manual labor involved.
>>>
>>> Cheers..
>>>
>>> - firat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Maya Forstater <hiyamaya at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would nominate the CDP Global 500 Reports - Its the biggest data set
>>>> as it goes back to 2003 (it was the original report) and of widest interest
>>>> I would think.
>>>>
>>>> The particular data I am most interested in is the scope 1 and scope 2
>>>> emissions by company and sector, but there might be some value in the other
>>>> columns for others...
>>>>
>>>> Is there a more automated way to do this, or does it have to be done by
>>>> hand?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maya Forstater
>>>> ****************************************************
>>>> Email:     maya at zadek.net
>>>> Phone:   +44 (0)1727 833 200
>>>> Mobile:   +44 (0) 7966676465
>>>> Skype:   Maya Forstater
>>>> Web:      www.hiyamaya.wordpress.com
>>>> Twitter:   MForstater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5 February 2013 17:12, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm.. we could set a project with Crowdcrafting to transcribe PDFs if
>>>>> we could identify an interesting set that we wanted to focus on:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://crowdcrafting.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Maya Forstater <hiyamaya at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is high-time that the CDP data was made more open and accessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the CDP has done a great job in getting a first round of
>>>>>> carbon disclosure over the past ten years, and making the case for
>>>>>> mandatory disclosure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the data is not released because companies report it on that
>>>>>> condition, but even the data which is made public is made unusable because
>>>>>> it is locked into tables in the back of the annual CDP reports (pdfs...)
>>>>>> https://www.cdproject.net/en-US/Results/Pages/reports.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The CDP is perhaps constrained by a business model developed before
>>>>>> the idea of open data really took off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I think as a first step the existing public data should be made
>>>>>> available in csv format for non-commercial and research purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that scraping the data from the pdfs and making it available
>>>>>> on that basis would probably be in line (just about) with their T&Cs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "You may retrieve and view content from our site, print off one copy
>>>>>> of individual pages, and may store these pages for research, your personal
>>>>>> use, or other non-commercial use provided that wherever you cite the data,
>>>>>> you credit “Carbon Disclosure Project” as the source. You may also use
>>>>>> content from our site in editorial content, provided that you credit
>>>>>> “Carbon Disclosure Project” as the source. You must not modify the paper or
>>>>>> digital copies of any materials you have printed off or downloaded in any
>>>>>> way, and you must not use any illustrations, photographs, video or audio
>>>>>> sequences or any graphics separately from any accompanying text without
>>>>>> prior written permission from CDP."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I don't have the technical nouse to do it. I have done a couple
>>>>>> of years by cutting and pasting, but I am sure there is a better way! - If
>>>>>> anyone wants help with this it would be a public service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More here:
>>>>>> http://hiyamaya.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/a-little-tweak-to-the-broken-carbon-dashboard/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maya Forstater
>>>>>> ****************************************************
>>>>>> Email:     maya at zadek.net
>>>>>> Phone:   +44 (0)1727 833 200
>>>>>> Mobile:   +44 (0) 7966676465
>>>>>> Skype:   Maya Forstater
>>>>>> Web:      www.hiyamaya.wordpress.com
>>>>>> Twitter:   MForstater
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 February 2013 16:59, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed aware of this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cdproject.net/en-US/Pages/Terms-And-Conditions.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But (i) it isn't openly licensed, (ii) I understand that a lot of
>>>>>>> data goes through them which is not released...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
>>>>>>> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just spotted this and thought sharing with those who didn't know
>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.cdproject.net/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
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>>
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