[openbiblio-dev] BibSoup in AnimalGarden

Peter Murray-Rust pm286 at cam.ac.uk
Mon Dec 19 21:32:17 UTC 2011

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Jim Pitman <pitman at stat.berkeley.edu>wrote:

> Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > and if not in a general text editor, with what editing tool?
> > Is there a tool that does this?
> There are many tools for editing BibTeX or logical equivalent, which is
> largely adequate as a
> BibJSON substrate. e.g. Zotero, Mendeley, BibSonomy, BibDesk, JabRef, ...
> Any of these could be used to edit a collection and then publish it to
> BibSoup. We should
> as soon as possible support proper between the native SQLite files used by
> Zotero and
> Mendeley and BibJSON.

Do these require the user to know BibTeX? Or do they have schema-driven
GUIs? Because if the former we are just swapping one language for another.
If the latter then we can presumably have an import on the server.

> > I wanted to edit some myself last night - tried to get a JSON plugin for
> Eclipse and after 3-4
> > hours gave up.
> Good JSON editors seem hard to find. I am not sure this is the right way
> to go either, to use
> a general purpose JSON editor. Need some validation to  keep BibJSON on
> the rails I think.

Agreed. I am amazed how few editors there were. The Eclipse problems are -
I think - because my Eclipse id broken. I just wanted it for my own use. I
found an online syntax validator.

> > * allow us to map local identifiers (i.e. OWL's id vs Penguin's id)
> Supported in principle by the present data structure. Need some
> matching/deduping tools as well though,
> and an interface to confirm/deny matches. I have some starts on this.
> > * look up books by publisher, date, author (e.g. all Penguins published
> in 1991). I had a friend who used to collect first editions of Penguin crime
> > (green covers).
> This is pretty much there out of the box, provided publisher is specified
> as a facet. Publisher names are varied though.
> Best to work  with a controlled list of all publishers. Other discussion
> on list about this.
> > This is likely to British to start with as we have the BNB and I can use
> > simple examples. That's then an incentive for people to get other
> bibliographies into this.
> Definitely. All good suggestions!
> --Jim
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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