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[Peter Murray-Rust]

Open Streetmap ran for several years without a bank account. Journal of
Machine Learning Research similarly. (It had to get one to prove to the
accountant that they didn't spend anything - and then they had to pay the
accountant to prove they hadn't spent money. Blue Obelisk costs 20 USD per
year which I spend on Blue Obelisks. Tey aren't without costs but they
avoided money.

Yes, in general you need money, but not always. And this project will find
it difficult to get money as there is no clear case to ask for it (yet).
There's also no clear deliverable. Some of the costs can be met by marginal
costs on existing systems. If you can come upm with a clear delieverable
maybe you can get a Kickstarter. But it will have tobe clear, useful and
achievable.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Alexander Garcia Castro <
alexgarciac at gmail.com> wrote:

> nothing runs without money
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> > In rare cases this can be done purely with community input. That happened
> > with Open StreetMap, with SAX (XML), with Blue Obelisk(chemistry) - none
> of
> > these required money. But my present project culdn't run without money.
> It
> > all deepdns on how much infrastructure there is to create and the size of
> > the volunteer pool.
> >
> > What is certain is that it needs a lot of energy and a reasonably clear
> > program. Set incremental goals. Maybe hack gloabl hacks - these are now
> > relatively easy and if you can find firnds in different countries they
> will
> > also organise. We did this 3 weeks ago with Mozilla - two days of hack.
> Very
> > successful, but a lot of energy provided by Mozilla. But you can do a lot
> > with Google+ or whatever.
> >
> > You'll almost certainly get OKF people interested.
> >
> > Suggest you propose some small achievable goal which everyone can
> > participate in, and then discuss it here. And see whether we can get
> people
> > together.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, Alexander! Joe, let us know what kind of support you can use
> (even
> >> at the level of encouragement), and we can figure out how to make it
> happen
> >> (shared discussion somewhere, whatever).
> >>
> >> kc
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/17/14, 3:20 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I volunteer.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter, I agree. But I also think it's really hard to take on such a
> >>>> project
> >>>> on your own. Can we gather a small cohort to give Joe a go-to place
> for
> >>>> questions, help, praise, reality checks, etc.? I'm willing, but can
> only
> >>>> really be helpful within my skill set (metadata, linked data, QC [I
> FIND
> >>>> BUGS!], and documentation). Can a few others with other skills
> >>>> volunteer? We
> >>>> can name our band whatever we want ;-).
> >>>>
> >>>> kc
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/17/14, 11:22 AM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is how I think projects should develop - someone enthusiastic
> >>>>> picks
> >>>>> up where the last initiative finished.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Karen Coyle
> >>>> kcoyle at kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
> >>>> m: 1-510-435-8234
> >>>> skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Karen Coyle
> >> kcoyle at kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
> >> m: 1-510-435-8234
> >> skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Murray-Rust
> > Reader in Molecular Informatics
> > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> > University of Cambridge
> > CB2 1EW, UK
> > +44-1223-763069
>
>
>
> --
> Alexander Garcia
> http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
> http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
>



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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
+44-1223-763069
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