[Open Design + Hardware] Mozfest slang/lingo
Pedro
pedro.p at wecreativepeople.com
Fri Aug 30 09:39:02 UTC 2013
Hey guy
I think this a great discussion
I have also been wondering if our understanding of words isn't always much
more abstract of what we hoped for.
Ever since there is Dicctionary we agreed on an especific meaning for each
term. But wasn't the natural state of the language: changing and adapting
to the circumstances of the individuals in the conversation?
So, do we ever understand what the other have to say? Or we can just hope
for an interpretation? Is that - bad-?
My questions for this kind of discussion would be how can language continue
to evolve and adapt so that we can best communicate our feelings/thoughts
And another question will definetelly be how to communicate what we do
without killing words as they become -buzz- words
Greetings to all
El viernes, 30 de agosto de 2013, escribió:
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> 1. Re: [Open Design & Hardware] Invitation to lead a session at
> Mozfest this Oct in London (Aleksandar Kova?)
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> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:18:30 +0900
> From: Aleksandar Kova? <alex.ecorrespondence at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Open Design + Hardware] [Open Design & Hardware]
> Invitation to lead a session at Mozfest this Oct in London
> To: Christian Villum <christian.villum at okfn.org>
> Cc: Open Design Definition - mailing list <opendesign at lists.okfn.org>
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> Understood. Both literally and metaphorically :)
> ...a big Thank you!
>
> About the Mozfest slang/lingo discussion idea... Sounds like fun, yes! I
> would enjoy participating in a discussion like that. Would MozFest
> people would consider that out of scope?
>
> Alex
>
> On 2013-08-29 02:05 , Christian Villum wrote:
> > Hi Aleksander,
> >
> > Thanks for your compliments - and also your critique, I've actually
> > never been confronted with such thoughtful comments on this topic
> > before, very interesting. I realize there is indeed a gap in semantics
> > and linguistics between many communities of pop culture and the more
> > established professional circles, although I guess I've subconsciously
> > relied on the increasing convergence of these arenas. My approach
> > towards the technology world is and has always been autodidact and I
> > get my inspiration from the Interwebz...sorry, the World Wide Web ;) -
> > so I've never before given much thought towards my methodology and
> > appropriateness in adopting new concepts and words when they hit my
> > screen every day.
> >
> > As for the exact meaning of these words, then it may very well be that
> > I am using them wrong, and I am happy to plea guilty to that. Your
> > examples of ambiguous use are spot on and I can definitely see your
> > point. But I think that these words often serve the meaning you put
> > into them as part of a context, and moreover, I don't care too much in
> > this particular context. Working groups/discussion lists are in my
> > perception meant as ways to bounce off ideas and co-create something
> > that, in this case, could later potentially become a finalized text or
> > coherent idea if anyone took up the challenge to bounce thoughts back.
> > Quick notes and brainstormings are rarely meant to be taken too
> > literally, but rather inspire a conversation about what could become a
> > shared project with shared definitions. I guess what I am getting at
> > is that I see the ever-changing Internet-lingo as a sort of
> > techno-slang, which is always open to interpretation. Just like
> > referring to a dj as "sick" doesn't necessarily mean that the guy
> > needs a doctor ;) Of course there are many views on meanings and
> > definitions, like you also point out - and yours is a welcome one and
> > undoubtedly more accurate.
> >
> > Either way, thanks for bringing this up, always inspiring to be
> > challenged a bit. It is food for thought indeed.
> >
> > Lastly, it would be really fun to have such conversations off-screen
> > and I am sure others would find great joy in taking part in them too.
> > Maybe we should we propose a session at MozFest to discuss technology
> > slang and lingo? Survey, brainstorm or hacking-session, you decide! ;)
> >
> > -Christian
> >
> > --
> >
> > Christian Villum
> >
> > Community Manager, Open Government Data + Local Groups Network
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Aleksandar Kova?
> > <alex.ecorrespondence at gmail.com
> > <mailto:alex.ecorrespondence at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Christian!
> >
> > I *love* your enthusiasm and I only wish there are more people
> > around the world with your enthusiasm.
> >
> > I hope you don't mind this message or that you won't go mad at me,
> > but... I must admit that I have big issues comprehending your
> > texts... At first, I could not tell from your CV what is exactly
> > that you are doing. "Alright..." I thought "this kind of
> > intriguing obfuscations are popular, recently, right?" but now I
> > cannot understand clearly the meanings of your suggestions for
> > Mozfest here. So I decided to write this message exactly because I
> > am eager to know more about your ideas.
> >
> > I am quite familiar and involved with the terminology you use.
> > Hacking, brainstorming, feedback, crowdsourcing, remix, mashup,
> > etc... Great terms! Each with it's own more-or-less well
> > established meaning, I believe. But... for example, I cannot tell
> > how "hacking out" is supposed to be performed if there is no prior
> > material to hack it out from or how such approach correlates or
> > makes "a great way to crowdsourcing" in the end. "Remix" and
> > "mashup" processes are not interchangeable. The "brainstorming"
> > session you describe is maybe closer to a "survey" etc. It appears
> > to me that perhaps the way you are using the terminology in
> > syntagms is just a bit too liberal. Consequently, I keep failing
> > making out a logical construction from these sentences.
> >
> > Articulation of information is essential in media where social
> > cues are low. Information must be articulated clearly to be
> > understood. Only understood information has the opportunity to
> > make a difference in our thinking and subsequently be useful to
> > all of us, across the fields and disciplines, and remain useful
> > even after the buzzword trends subside.
> >
> > In short, please go easy on us old ESL fa*ts here. ;)
> >
> > Keep up the good spirit and I hope that this tiny complaint will
> > not deter you a bit in your thinking. This message is in no way
> > meant antagonistically. In a way, this is my call for reduction of
> > buzzwords in all of our writing. (That we, the designers, too
> > often fall victims to)
> > Afterall, perhaps this is just me and my un-enviable
> > "intelligence" complaining :)
> > Looking forward to your future contributions,
> >
> > Peace!
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2013-08-27 17:31 , Christian Villum wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> With the deadline fast approaching (*August 31*), are anyone
> >> interested in working on getting something together?
> >>
> >> Some ideas for sessions, on top of my head:
> >>
> >> * Maybe we could setup a session around our new
> >> OpenDesign/Hardware magazine idea? (Mioli, as presented in
> >> email from Kat a couple of days ago). I am thinking that we
> >> could invite people to join the editorial team (or just a
> >> temporary editorial team) - or simply do a brainstorming
> >> session in which participants are presented with the basic
> >> idea and then invited to give feedback. We could even start
> >> hacking out some design work, logos, write copy or whatever.
> >> Would be a great way to not only kick off the project, but
> >> also crowdsource it.
> >> * Or, maybe someone would be up for hosting a learning session
> >> relating to graphics? I do not have sufficient skills to lead
> >> or teach that myself, but would love to support any of you in
> >> such an endeavor. Could also be other learning sessions, like
> >> hacking around with Processing or something.
> >> * Public Domain Remix session? Getting people together to
> >> mashup art from pd-licensed materials on their computers...
> >>
> >> Call for proposals: http://sessions.mozillafestival.org/
> >>
> >> -Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Christian Villum
> >>
> >> Community Manager, Open Government Data + Local Groups Network
> >> skype: christianvillum | @villum <http://www.twitter.com/villum>
> >> TheOpen Knowledge Foundation <http://okfn.org/>
> >> /Empowering through Open Knowledge
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> >> /Have you registered for OKCon 2013 <http://okcon.org/>?/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Christian Villum
> >> <christian.villum at okfn.org <mailto:christian.villum at okfn.org>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Very exciting, I'd love to be part of putting a proposal
> >> together.
> >> Anyone else planning to go?
> >>
> >> -Christian
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Christian Villum
> >>
> >> Community Manager, Open Government Data + Local Groups Network
> >> skype: christianvillum | @villum <
> http://www.twitter.com/villum>
> >> TheOpen Knowledge Foundation <http://okfn.org/>
> >> /Empowering through Open Knowledge
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> >> /Have you registered for OKCon 2013 <http://okcon.org/>?/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Kat Braybrooke
> >> <kat.braybrooke at gmail.com <mailto:kat.braybrooke at gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Open Design + Hardware leaders!
> >>
> >> The time for official Mozfest call-outs has come, and I'd
> >> like to cordially invite each of you as makers,
> >> designers, culture hackersand community leaders to help
> >> lead thisyear's Mozilla FestivalfromOctober 25 - 27 in
> >> London, UKby proposing a session for our "Build Webmaker
> >> Together" track!
> >>
> >> What is MozFest like? Picture hundreds of passionate
> >> people?journalists, coders, community leaders,
> >> filmmakers, designers, educators, gamers from all over
> >> the world?immersed in interactive sessions at a
> >> cutting-edge media and design school on the Thames for 3
> >> days of skill-sharing designed to foster collaboration,
> >> participation and social change. Come with a concept you
> >> want to make real, and we'll connect you with a community
> >> of fiercely unconventional technologists and creators
> >> eager to share their skills and nurture your ideas. This
> >> year, therewill be10 tracks exploring different themes
> >> from journalism to gamestoeducation,with lots of hands-on
> >> making, fun times, peer learning and epic coffee!
> >>
> >> And inthe 'Build Webmaker Together' track, we believe
> >> the web is still wild. We'll co-design its future with
> >> hackable projects, new memes and creativity remixed with
> >> digital tools. This track is all about making and
> >> co-creation, building creative and wonderful things
> >> together that help change the world. We'll use the
> >> Webmaker.org online toolset and digital design methods
> >> ranging from the beautiful to the crazy, with an emphasis
> >> on participatory, hands-on sessions that integrate art,
> >> film, remix, memes, culture hacking and new perspectives.
> >> Details on what we are looking for can be found on our
> >> planning pad:
> >> https://webmaker.etherpad.mozilla<https://webmaker.etherpad.mozilla.org/mozfest2013build>
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