[Open Design + Hardware] Open Design Definition @?OKFestival 2014 (francesco fortino)

Mon May 26 08:44:53 UTC 2014

Francesco

sure contribution requires some access … I should emphasize that access and contribution are not just binary yes/no aspects, and particularly contribution is a more tricky one:

just saying “let’s do this together” does not imply that any and all contributions would be accepted in the final product, and there are multiple gradations as to who decides on inclusion

also in access: there are many intended and unintended barriers (closed group, language issues, connectivity, …), just because something is on github does not equal “full access”

// Peter

On 25 May 2014, at 16:32, Francesco Fortino - SUPERFLUO <francesco.fortino at studiosuperfluo.com> wrote:

> imho Acces and Contribution are two elements that may or may not come together, but in some way Contribution implies Access, more than vice-versa: something without access can't be openly developed neither privately contributed. Open Design may come from an Idea, developed by the former group (or individual), that releases it at a development level decided by the group/individual itself. I've called it "Idea" referring to the partecipation matrix used for the ODefinition. However this idea could be both an "open call" such as "we'd like to design a bicycle, let's do it together", or a full-working design, later improved by the community.
> 
> Summarizing these concepts, we could say that a design grants "open access" state just when it's published through a collaborative platform (f.eg Github) under an open/free license (mostly Creative Commons), while Contribution may come later.
> 
> Contribution sounds like a consequence of open access to me, however someone may want to "lock" the design from external contribution, developing it alone. I made this consideration just to better cover the whole case scenario, since it may sound a bit nonsense, but it reminds to me the ND case of CC license in some way.
> 
> You can find a scheme about these concept attached to this e-mail that uses an "adapted" Semiotic Square as a framework (since Access and Contribution are not opposites, but it's anyway comprehensible)
> 
> Just to make an example, I'd like to share with you a project i've posted on github few time ago that should be compatible with the Open Design Definition:
> https://github.com/frafor1988/opensonora-alpha
> 
> OpenSonora Alpha fell under the No-contribution / No-Access axis during the development, sometimes moving to the Contribution / No-Access axis, or falling around the Limited/Restricted Access/Contribution axes, since i've asked for help to a friend of mine, but i didn't share with him all the schemes, neither I made them publicly available under an Open license. In all cases, it was Closed Design, until i've got them working at a satisfying quality level and published the schemes on Github under CC-BY-SA: now it's an OpenDesign shared project, and anyone can contribute. However, the speakers cannot move to the top Access / Contribution axis since i'm the only contributor at the moment.
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> Francesco
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>    3. Re: Open Design Definition @?OKFestival 2014 (Dr. Peter Troxler)
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> From: Massimo Menichinelli <massimo.menichinelli at aalto.fi>
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> Il 12/05/14 22:56, Dr. Peter Troxler ha scritto:
> > Expanding on that: Alastair Fuad-Luke reports finding it hard to involve fashion designers in an ?open fashion? project (despite fashion recognized as a ?low-ip? field of design, [1]).  At various conferences I found designers blurring or even confusing their role of social activists and professional designers in social interventions (most recently at the Cumulus conference in Aveiro, PT).
> >
> 
> In my lecturing experience, I haven't found any problems in motivating
> the students in releasing their project as open source (and the students
> were mostly designers but with different backgrounds). Only one person
> did not want to realease a 700 Mb file. It maybe depends on many
> factors, but often there are questions regarding IP and Open Design, so
> this is an important topic.
> 
> > I am arguing (in a model developed with colleagues) that ?open? has two dimensions, open access and open contribution and that the discussion on open design has been focused too much on the ?access? dimension and not sufficiently on the ?contribution? dimension ? or in more detail: that the contribution dimension stops at ?co-design? or any other designer-led format but fails to develop ?open design? beyond a situation where designers are not in the lead (for the sake of the argument I understand ?facilitation? as ?lead?).  Imho, in a real open design situation designers should only provide the methods, but not apply/execute them (facilitation).
> 
> I agree on the difference between "open access" and "open contribution",
> this is something that we can add to the definition. At the moment I
> just added a quick note to the design process part: feel free to commet
> here with an e-mail or on the link, I will bring it to the definition:
> https://github.com/OpenDesign-WorkingGroup/Open-Design-Definition/commit/03c2d543242fed0d8e999b79d96c6671b46406a6
> 
> Personally, I've always been interested in making Open Design the
> outcome of a collaborative process, rather than a single person project
> (but both are possible so both should be part of the definition), so I
> agree on the difference between access and contribution (the whole open
> p2p design first and open metadesign rearch later focuses on making a
> collaborative participation in the open design process possible).
> 
> Regarding the idea that designers should only facilitate and not really
> work in open design projects: this is an interesting point that needs
> further discussion and research (I don't agree at the moment: Open
> Design should also be for designers! Maybe the problem lays in finding
> the right motivations for them to participate in Open Design). But
> regardless of the opinion, both possibilities should be in the definition.
> 
> How can we expand this in the definition?
> 
> 
> Massimo
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> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:27:16 +0200
> From: Massimo Menichinelli <massimo.menichinelli at aalto.fi>
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>         Design+Hardware+Manufacturing for Ecuador
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> Dear all,
> as you may already know, Ecuador is developing a set of policies for a
> transition towards a "Free Libre Open Knowledge" Society (FLOK Society),
> based on free and open principles and methods. You can find more
> information regarding this project here:
> 
> http://floksociety.org/
> http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOK_Society_Project
> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-flok-society-project-ecuador-commits-itself-to-a-open-commons-based-knowledge-society/2013/09/20
> 
> Next week there will be in Ecuador an event, Cumbre del Buen Conocer,
> where this policies will be discussed:
> http://cumbredelbuenconocer.ec/
> 
> I've been invited to this event for discussing the policies regarding
> Open Design, Open Hardware, Distributed Manufacturing. I think it will
> be a great opportunity not only for Ecuador but also for the other
> participants to redistribute the knowledge produced during the meeting,
> so I expect to learn a lot from this meeting. I have of course many
> ideas regarding possible suggestions for policies, but I would like to
> hear also ideas from you, and I would be happy to bring your suggestions
> to the discussions! Please let's discuss ideas here!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Massimo
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> Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 01:22:57 +0200
> From: "Dr. Peter Troxler" <trox at fabfolk.com>
> To: Massimo Menichinelli <massimo.menichinelli at aalto.fi>
> Cc: opendesign at lists.okfn.org
> Subject: Re: [Open Design + Hardware] Open Design Definition
>         @?OKFestival 2014
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> On 24 May 2014, at 18:18, Massimo Menichinelli <massimo.menichinelli at aalto.fi> wrote:
> 
> >>  Imho, in a real open design situation designers should only provide the methods, but not apply/execute them (facilitation).
> >
> > Regarding the idea that designers should only facilitate and not really work in open design projects: this is an interesting point that needs further discussion and research (I don't agree at the moment: Open Design should also be for designers! Maybe the problem lays in finding the right motivations for them to participate in Open Design). But regardless of the opinion, both possibilities should be in the definition.
> 
> Probably I was not exactly sharp enough in my suggestion.
> 
> What I wanted to say is:  given certain methods to facilitate participation in open designing are made available anybody should be allowed/able to lead the process and everybody should be allowed/able to participate in designing.
> 
> A situation in which facilitation was reserved for designers or one in which certain designerly tasks were reserved for designers would not correspond to an open participatory situation in my thinking.  But surely I would want designers to take part in such open design settings!
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