[openspending-dev] Satellite sites - wordpress option (and the primary option!)

Tue Apr 9 14:47:34 UTC 2013

On 6 April 2013 15:04, Adam Stiles <adam.d.stiles at gmail.com> wrote:
> As a user, I second Vitor's point:
>
> I feel that for satellite sites, technical documentation about how to use
> the widgets is more useful. Not embedding the iframe, but actually adding
> the js libraries and calling them, so the user could start customizing it.

Totally agree this would be useful but I would put this after having
e.g. the wordpress basic instructions.

Note here I hadn't even considered the customization of JS stuff - i
was just remarking on fact that our current satellite site setup
focuses on a jekyll site :-)

Rufus

> There are at least two cases where iframes are very limiting and which
> non-JS experts are slow to start using OpenSpending:
>
> - Our site will have commenting at each level of treemap visualizations (so
> 3+ levels of data are not combined on one long comment thread); this
> requires unique URLs on each click of the visual
>
> - Need to be able to share URLs of a particular level/view of a treemap or
> bubble tree
>
> Embedding was very easy to figure out from OS documentation, but JS widget
> questions have required me to pester the developers with questions that will
> have to be answered over and over again from future users.
>
> And I do agree that directions to launch wordpress OS instances would result
> in many more new sites than relying on solely Jekyll, though I'd address
> this just after the issue above.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Vitor Baptista <vitor at vitorbaptista.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rufus,
>>
>> For these questions, does it matter if we're using Wordpress or Jekyll? I
>> feel that for satellite sites, technical documentation about how to use the
>> widgets is more useful. Not embedding the iframe, but actually adding the js
>> libraries and calling them, so the user could start customizing it.
>>
>> IMHO the basic case of "how can I embed this as is to my website" is
>> already well done inside OpenSpending.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Vitor Baptista.
>>
>> Em 05/04/2013 06:30, "Rufus Pollock" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> escreveu:
>>
>>> * Here's a how you create a treemap or bubbletree
>>> * Here's how you create a dailybread
>>> * Here's how you embed these in your website
>>>
>>> Rufus
>>>
>>> On 4 April 2013 21:52, Vitor Baptista <vitor at vitorbaptista.com> wrote:
>>> > Hey Rufus,
>>> >
>>> > What instructions are you thinking about, specifically?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Vítor Baptista.
>>> >
>>> > 2013/4/4 Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> Having just created the satellite-template repo (see other thread) I
>>> >> got to wondering why we don't focus our instructions for creating
>>> >> "satellite sites" on e.g. wordpress rather than the gh-pages model.
>>> >>
>>> >> Wordpress has significant advantages:
>>> >>
>>> >> * Much more widely used
>>> >> * Easier to set up (installing jekyll is a serious pain, gh-pages
>>> >> deployment is non-obvious)
>>> >> * Much easier to add additional content
>>> >> * Easier to theme ...
>>> >>
>>> >> To start with all this would require is instructions on creating the
>>> >> relevant visualizations and embedding. (This would have an additional
>>> >> benefit of providing general instructions for any site, drupal, plain
>>> >> html etc)
>>> >>
>>> >> Later if we wanted to get fancy we could create a wordpress plugin.
>>> >>
>>> >> What do people think? (Note this does not mean getting rid of the
>>> >> gh-pages option but it would mean creating wordpress instructions [1]
>>> >> and giving them equal or higher priority in our instructions)
>>> >>
>>> >> [1]: I've created an issue for wordpress instructions for satellite
>>> >> sites here https://github.com/openspending/thingstodo/issues/10
>>> >>
>>> >> Rufus
>>> >>
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