[OpenSpending] €278bn through shell companies in Netherlands
Jonathan Gray
jonathan.gray at okfn.org
Thu Jun 20 17:16:02 UTC 2013
Some further info from Chris...
On 20 June 2013 17:14, Chris Taggart <chris.taggart at opencorporates.com>wrote:
> The biggest issue with the Netherlands (and this might be something the
> Dutch press want to pick up on) is the closed nature of the Dutch Chamber
> of Commerce. Not only do they score badly on the Open Company Data Index<http://registries.opencorporates.com/jurisdiction/nl>,
> they also block the IP address of anyone who tries to scrape the data,
> including, I believe possibly OpenKVK, from whom we get the data. This is
> clearly the opposite of being open, and tends to incline one that they
> would rather the information wasn't reused, as it would lend support to
> stories such as this.
>
> We do have the vast majority of NL companies (though some we have
> relatively little data on). Increasingly we are mapping other data to it,
> and so are closing in on the situation.
> Chris
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> On 20 June 2013 14:13, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>> Chris: could you shed any light on this?
>>
>>
>> On 20 June 2013 14:58, Anders Pedersen <anders.pedersen at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jonathan,
>>>
>>> From the article:
>>> "12,000 multinational holding companies, of which 75% are based at
>>> trust offices"
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to map the density of the trust offices across
>>> the country. As we can pull Dutch company data including addresses from
>>> Opencorporates and as the Dutch postal codes are very small entities, it
>>> should be possible to map this.
>>>
>>> When it comes to access to corporate financial data in NL, things are,
>>> as far as I know, much more complicated. Opencorporates is pulling
>>> information from the Securities and Exchange Commission, SEC (US) and this
>>> could possibly be one of the best sources of Dutch corporate financial
>>> information at the moment.
>>>
>>> Anders
>>>
>>> On 20 June 2013 07:46, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently "€278bn flow through shell companies based in the
>>>> Netherlands every year". [1]
>>>>
>>>> Wonder if this is something that any OpenSpending folks in NL have
>>>> looked into?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2013/06/the_netherlands_is_not_a_tax_h.php
>>>>
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