[OpenSpending] Ecosystem of tools: Working with Spending Data

Thu May 2 19:56:21 UTC 2013

That would be brilliant, thanks Kathryn :)

It's definitely an issue we've come up against a few times :)

L

On Thursday, May 2, 2013, Kathryn.Corrick wrote:

> On that point Sam, all...
>
> We probably need to add in which of these tools work on IE6?
>
> The challenge we're currently facing (with my ODI training hat on) for
> many of the government departments we work with is that Google tools and
> anything that uses HTML5 won't work on their machines (which are locked
> down and run IE6), and getting new software installed can be a lengthy
> process.
>
> This may also be the case with other organisations including in the
> voluntary sector, particularly ones having to rely on older or second hand
> machines.
>
> Lucy - I'll see if I can get this info for you as we've already done some
> testing.
>
> Kathryn
>
>
> On 2 May 2013, at 13:29, Sam Smith <s at msmith.net> wrote:
>
> > This looks great.
> >
> > One thing I especially like is the fact that easy rebuttals to "we can't
> do that here" type responses are all ingrained in the text, in a way which
> is probably incredibly helpful for people who don't realise that they need
> that yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On 2 May 2013, at 12:16, Lucy Chambers <lucy.chambers at okfn.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, yes - thanks Kathryn - I keep making that mistake!
> >>
> >> @Pedro, as per your request - I've uploaded the rtf version to GDocs -
> here
> >> it is:
> >>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/document/d/12Wyqif_uqX01NYgY9xZumpq-y_NmU2ipoT3_FkU8AFU/edit
> >>
> >> Lucy
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 May 2013 05:54, Kathryn.Corrick <kathryn.corrick at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Lucy,
> >>> This is a great list. No additional tools that I can think of that meet
> >>> your criteria but I'll ask the ODI team just in case.
> >>>
> >>> However, you may want to be aware that Google Refine is now Open
> Refine.
> >>> The explanatory video for Google Refine which applies to Open Refine
> for
> >>> the moment is a good one, so it might be worth adding to your list if
> there
> >>> are intro videos or how-tos to the tools listed.
> >>>
> >>> Kathryn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2 May 2013, at 03:07, Lucy Chambers <lucy.chambers at okfn.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> A quick question, I'm trying to draw up an 'ideal' ecosystem of tools
> for
> >>> working with spending data so that we can work out how to teach them
> more
> >>> effectively and hopefully, get some more exciting Spending Data related
> >>> projects out there.
> >>>
> >>> I've attached my current thoughts in a draft and would be grateful for
> >>> input from the group!:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7348125/Spending%20Data%20-%20Tool%20Ecosystem.doc
> >>>
> >>> It's important that the audience for this is NGOs, who probably cannot
> >>> code, so I would prefer to keep this list relatively short and to the
> >>> point.
> >>>
> >>> (I have also copy-pasted the text from the document below for your
> >>> convenience - although- the structure may not make it through the
> mailing
> >>> list!)
> >>>
> >>> Lucy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Spending Data: The Tool Ecosystem *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are a set of staple tools that can be used to tackle the issues
> >>> highlighted by the organisations in this report. For each one - we’ve
> >>> outlined the tool - what it’s useful for and what the barrier to entry
> is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Key:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Basic* = An off-the-shelf tool that can be learned and first
> independent
> >>> usage made of within 1 day. No installation on servers etc required.
> >>>
> >>> *Intermediate* = Between 1 day - 1 week to master basic functionality.
> >>> May require tweaking of code but not new creation thereof.
> >>>
> >>> *Advanced* = Requires code
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Extracting and Getting Data *
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Issue*
> >>>
> >>> *Tools*
> >>>
> >>> *Level*
> >>>
> >>> Data not available
> >>>
> >>> Freedom of Information Portals
> >>>
> >>> Basic - though some education may be required to inform people that
> they
> >>> have the right to ask, ho

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