[Pdr] Piece from Jack Zipes

Tue Apr 3 10:35:18 UTC 2012

Great. On my list.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Adam Green <mradamrgreen at googlemail.com> wrote:
> no i haven't.. it was a "yes to follow up" as in, "i agree to you
> following up" .
>
> On 3 April 2012 11:54, Jonathan Gray <j.gray at cantab.net> wrote:
>> Woah cool. Did you also email Rodney Engen, or shall I do it?
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Adam Green <mradamrgreen at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> brilliant!!!
>>>
>>> and yes to follow up with marina warner and rodney egnan
>>>
>>> i emailed this robert irwin guy regarding arabian nights illustrations
>>> but i have heard nothing back...
>>>
>>> On 5 February 2012 14:50, Jonathan Gray <j.gray at cantab.net> wrote:
>>>> Jack Zipes has offered to write something on the omitted tales from
>>>> the 1812 edition of the Brothers Grimm's Kinder- und Hausmaerchen (see
>>>> below). This year is the 200th anniversary of this first edition. As
>>>> one of the world's leading Grimm experts, Jack is in very high demand,
>>>> so this is a really big deal!
>>>>
>>>> I'll follow up with him in April/May. On my list!
>>>>
>>>> After I hear from him, I'll write to Marina Warner about something
>>>> else in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Also I was thinking of writing to Rodney Engen, the curator of a big
>>>> exhibition about fairy tale illustrations at Dulwich Picture Gallery
>>>> [1], to write about public domain illustrations of a particular tales,
>>>> visual interpretation of tales, his favourite illustrations, or
>>>> something else.
>>>>
>>>> What do yous think?
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.dulwichpicturegallery.org.uk/exhibitions/past_exhibitions/the_age_of_enchantment.aspx
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Dear Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your letter and your kind words about my work. I am writing
>>>> to you from Boston, where I spoke at a Harvard conference on the
>>>> legacy of the Brothers Grimm, and I am a bit exhausted and preparing
>>>> for my return trip to Minneapolis. So, if I am somewhat incoherent,
>>>> you'll understand.
>>>> I have glanced at some of the articles in The Public Domain Review,
>>>> and they are highly unusual, and I am very much in favor of your
>>>> project.I should also like to contribute something, but as you have
>>>> surmised, I am ridiculously busy at the moment, especially since this
>>>> is the commemorative year celebrating 200th anniversary of the first
>>>> edition of the Brothers Grimm's Kinder- und Hausmaerchen, and I shall
>>>> be speaking at various conferences. That being said, I might be able
>>>> to provide you with a short piece along with some translations that
>>>> deal with the omitted fairy tales from the 1812 edition. It is not
>>>> commonly known that, after the Grimms published the first edition of
>>>> 1812/1815, they eliminated over 20 of the tales from the first edition
>>>> when they published the second edition of 1819. And these tales were
>>>> never reprinted, although some made their way into the notes. I am
>>>> preparing an edition of omitted tales for an Italian publisher in
>>>> Rome, and after selecting the tales, I shall write a small
>>>> introduction, which the publisher will translate into Italian. The
>>>> entire edition, of course, will be in Italian. So, once I write the
>>>> introduction in April or May, I could send it to you along with a few
>>>> of the omitted tales in English and with commentary on the
>>>> significance of the omissions or the changes that the Grimms made with
>>>> some of the tales in the 1819 edition. The Grimms were "translators"
>>>> and "adapters" of the tales they collected either through oral or
>>>> print transmission.
>>>>
>>>> So, if you are interested, I can re-contact you in April/May and show
>>>> you a draft of a possible article.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Jonathan Gray <j.gray at cantab.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Professor Zipes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Its Bill Gray's son, Jonathan. I greatly admire your work, and look
>>>>> forward to working with the bibliographies that you kindly donated to
>>>>> the Sussex Centre a little while back.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm writing to ask whether you might be interested in contributing
>>>>> something to a publication called The Public Domain Review, of which I
>>>>> am co-founder and co-editor. The Review is a free web-based journal
>>>>> that "aspires to become a bounteous gateway into this whopping
>>>>> plenitude that is the public domain". Like a free TLS, LRB, or NYRB
>>>>> for material which has public domain and is freely available online.
>>>>>
>>>>> As well as having a critical and curatorial function, the Review aims
>>>>> to help promote the idea that a cultural commons is something which
>>>>> should be valued: "We believe the public domain is an invaluable and
>>>>> indispensable good, which – like our natural environment and our
>>>>> physical heritage – deserves to be explicitly recognised, protected
>>>>> and appreciated".
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find it here: http://publicdomainreview.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> The Review is just entering its second year. We have many wonderful
>>>>> articles, including one last week from Julian Barnes on an unusual
>>>>> meeting between Maupassant and Swinburne:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://publicdomainreview.org/2012/01/24/an-unlikely-lunch-when-maupassant-met-swinburne/
>>>>>
>>>>> For a while my Co-editor and I have been fantasising about inviting
>>>>> you to write a short piece on an interesting or curious collection of
>>>>> fairy tales, an obscure or unusual tale that you like, or any other
>>>>> work that has passed into the public domain. For example, we noticed
>>>>> that you highlight the "Meadows of Gold and Mines of Gems" collection
>>>>> in a selected bibliography of primary sources, which sounds very
>>>>> interesting. Also you mention the Richard Burton translation of the
>>>>> Pentamerone, which is a wonderful book, which not everyone will know
>>>>> much about.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think? We realise you must be very busy, but thought it
>>>>> was nevertheless worth asking!
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for your time.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>> http://jonathangray.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Professor Emeritus
>>>> University of Minnesota
>>>> Home address: 3245 Irving Ave. S.
>>>> Minneapolis, MN 55408
>>>> Phone: (612) 825-9060
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>>>>
>>>>
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