[wsfii-discuss] Re: taking lead and self organization

Fri Jun 29 07:30:01 UTC 2007

Sorry I did not know all the background history of the event, and I think it
will be good to put it somewhere in the website so new comers as me
understand the storyline(by the way where are we  for the refont of the
site, who is coordinating it? I proposed to translation but where will I
start? How will I access it?).

I thorouglly agree on the integration of local people and application of
ICT4D, and it would be interesting for people on the ground to make a little
survey to have an idea on what are people needs in term of communication and
services that ICT could facilitate, communication with family, exchange of
certain information, training in certain domains not available in their
regions,......
Not answers like access to Internet(which means not much at all),
With these information it would help people to proposes "in self organized
way" programe filling needs where we could use tools like webinars, VOIP,
workshop on content management, network buildings,etc
I think in that way the meeting  could have a really impact in the
community.

I would also want to know what is the social environment of the site, is the
city deserved by electricty, are people keen to use computers, Are computers
available on the comunity? what is their  average income, which kind of
business the city have.

People in Ghana must  participate on these discusion, we should see if we
can prepare skype conference (isnt it any open source soft that we can use
instead ?) , webinar as proposed by Ashish or other things.
But as the date is approaching (by the way what is going to be that
date???can we start interpreting results of the poll, and please people
participate to it??)
it must be done as soon as posible so all the stakeholder "meet", discuss
agree on the vision on logistics, housing facilities (if there is any..),
...

This date setting is very important so people can know if they will be able
to participate or not and start planning.

On 6/28/07, Ian Howard <ihoward at netdotworking.com> wrote:
>
> *All,
>
> Sorry, but I was kicked from the list due to a DNS error with my MX, so
> I am just now catching up on some of the discussion.
>
> I see some strong refutation to my suggestion to not forget about the
> principles of self-organization. I don't want to get into some kind of
> flame war on the subject, nor argue about the virtues and faults of open
> source etc., my suggestion was that I think that that value
> (self-organization) should not be lost in whatever way we decide to
> organize the event. As I indicated subsequently, there are perhaps ways
> to arrive at a hybridized solution, but so long as the end result is
> that we have something that encourages participation and allows for
> contribution from all interested. So, to be clear, I am not opposed to a
> coordinator, in fact I support the idea of having some key people more
> actively involved, but I am opposed to someone taking outright
> authority. Whomever is appointed should be willing and interested in
> seeking input from the stakeholders, local and international.
>
> One note, regarding Thomas' posting, from my recollection the idea to
> have this conference did not originate with the local group, unless
> perhaps they had an event that we have merged with WSFII and in fact,
> this event began as a self-organizing event. So, it would not be right
> to say that we are taking it and making it a self-organizing event. But
> to return to the topic of engaging this group, again, we need to really
> find a way to engage with our local people so that they can participate
> in these discussions. Perhaps we can figure out a way to do that?
>
> What we are doing here is more important than just this meeting, we are
> forging two interesting paths, one, an inclusive process of
> self-organizing for the international ICT4D community and second, we are
> figuring out new ways to engage local groups into this process. If we
> advance these concepts, than we have done something, IMHO, much more
> important than the conference itself.
>
> Ian
>
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> I'm seeing a lot of people contributing to the discusion but so far the
> minutes of the ganaheein comittee is the first contribution I see
> from  the
> ghanaien people on the ground.
>
> I would really want to know what they think of the discusion of this
> mailing
> list, are they understanding that, it's how I perceive it, "WE" want to
> somehow use this event and turning it to a  self organized event, perhaps
> far from what they are planning and that they risk to lose control of it ?
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