[annotator-dev] FinalsClub Annotations

Andrew@FinalsClub.org andrew at finalsclub.org
Fri Dec 2 15:39:08 UTC 2011


Good eye, Mark.  I hadn't seen Rufus' name.  Rufus, if you know any more, I'd be curious to hear the details whenever you get a moment.

Thanks,
Andrew


On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Mark MacGillivray wrote:

> Thanks - I had not heard of it.
> 
> I see that Rufus is listed as advisor and collaborator, and that Micah
> Altman (who worked with Jim Pitman on the earlier BibKN work) made a
> donation.
> 
> As you say, it is not clear whether they have code, but the method
> they describe is exactly the same as annotator / commentator.
> 
> We should see if they will use annotator code, and we can combine efforts on it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Andrew at FinalsClub.org
> <andrew at finalsclub.org> wrote:
>> Gents,
>> 
>> I just learned of another interesting annotation project that just closed a
>> kickstarter fundraising round of $100k with a matching donation from a rich
>> philanthropist.  It's located at www.Hypothes.is
>> 
>> Have any of you heard of it?  It seems rather interesting, but it's unclear
>> whether they've written even a line of code yet.  Thought I'd bring it to
>> everyone's attention.
>> 
>> ~Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>> 
>> That's excellent.  I'm starting to host regular 'futurecasting' parties in
>> Cambridge, we can make annotation the topic of one soon.  Free Sunday
>> late-aft?  :-)
>> 
>> SJ
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Andrew at FinalsClub.org
>> <andrew at finalsclub.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for chiming in, SJ.  We did have a call and are working to get the
>>> FinalsClub data into a usable form for the OKF's Open Shakespeare project.
>>> 
>>> I sent an SQL dump of about 270 books and 9000+ annotations to Rufus and
>>> Co the other day and am awaiting response.  I'd love to sit down and
>>> brainstorm some Annotation ideas at any point.  It's been a while since
>>> we've crossed paths.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>> 
>>> Was there followup to this?
>>> 
>>> I am working on a project to share - discuss - annotate citations (there
>>> the annotations are comments on the cite as a source, or on the
>>> citation-link itself, rather than on the underlying text of the cite), and
>>> would be glad to coordinate.
>>> 
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikicite
>>> 
>>> Sam.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 3 November 2011 16:07, Andrew at FinalsClub.org <andrew at finalsclub.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Rufus,
>>>>> Thanks for the reply.  I was beginning to think you weren't interested.
>>>> 
>>>> Definitely interested -- just been very busy the last couple of weeks
>>>> (also on this issue it is really my colleague James Harriman-Smith you
>>>> should talk to but I am not sure he checks this mailing list -- as
>>>> suggested earlier best place for this discussion might be
>>>> open-humanities ...).
>>>> 
>>>>>  I've actually been talking with another company (Highlighter.com)
>>>>> about
>>>>> helping out in the meantime.  Since I am a believer in free and open
>>>>> knowledge, I hope there is a compelling reason for us to work together
>>>>> instead.
>>>>> A call on Sunday, November 20th would work.  What time were you
>>>>> thinking?
>>>> 
>>>> Our usual Open Literature meetups are at around 3 or 4pm GMT. Would
>>>> that work for you?
>>>> 
>>>> Rufus
>>>> 
>>>>> Looking forward,
>>>>> Andrew Magliozzi
>>>>> Founder, FinalsClub.org
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 October 2011 18:58, Andrew Magliozzi <andrew at finalsclub.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the words of support, Philipp.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To follow up my other email ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to help the OKF as much as possible. Since Shakespeare is only
>>>>> part
>>>>> 
>>>>> of the content we have I'd love to get your platform running on
>>>>> 
>>>>> FinalsClub.org so our community can resume annotating even more great
>>>>> public
>>>>> 
>>>>> domain texts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That would be great. One of our plans (as just mentioned) is to expand
>>>>> Open Shakespeare (and Open Milton) to be Open Literature i.e. to be a
>>>>> place for all open texts. We'd love to collaborate here since it
>>>>> sounds like we're both interested inthis. As this is less relevant to
>>>>> Annotator list so may want to move to open humanities mailing list:
>>>>> <http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-humanities>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would also like to discuss some ideas I have about annotation in
>>>>> general,
>>>>> 
>>>>> particularly with regard to the kindle and other e-readers. Rufus,
>>>>> would you
>>>>> 
>>>>> be free for a Skype chat this Thursday perhaps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tomorrow (thursday) would be possible though it would be really good
>>>>> to be able to bring in my colleague James. What about tying this in
>>>>> with the next biweekly Open Literature / Open Humanities meetup
>>>>> (sunday after next)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rufus
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking forward,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Philipp Schmidt <philipp at p2pu.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 October 2011 08:52, Andrew at FinalsClub.org <andrew at finalsclub.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Annotation Aficionados,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am involved with FinalsClub.org, a non-profit open education project
>>>>> for
>>>>> 
>>>>> college students to share their knowledge freely with the world.  In
>>>>> 
>>>>> addition to note-sharing, the project also had an annotation component
>>>>> from
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2007 to 2009.  During that time, we hired about a dozen Harvard PhDs to
>>>>> 
>>>>> annotate public domain works of literature, including ten Shakespeare
>>>>> plays.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, our old site is down and those annotations are not
>>>>> publicly
>>>>> 
>>>>> visible.  I have, however, attached the xml file for Romeo and Juliet
>>>>> with
>>>>> 
>>>>> about 500 annotations.  If anyone is interested in helping us resurrect
>>>>> 
>>>>> about 90 public domain texts with some 9000+ high quality annotations,
>>>>> we
>>>>> 
>>>>> would very much like the help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow. How hard would it be to import them? For example to this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://openshakespeare.org/work/romeo_and_juliet
>>>>> 
>>>>> @Rufus - could be a good way to bootstrap open shakespeare, but also a
>>>>> 
>>>>> broader annotation community around annotator. Is there still a public
>>>>> site
>>>>> 
>>>>> - I could only find http://okfn.org/projects/annotator/
>>>>> 
>>>>> There may be an opportunity to turn Annotator into a service like
>>>>> Universal
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subtitles
>>>>> 
>>>>> P
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Given that all of our content is creative commons attribution only,
>>>>> we're
>>>>> 
>>>>> glad to share it with proper attribution to finalsclub.  I'd also love
>>>>> to
>>>>> 
>>>>> get the annotate software running on our servers so our community of
>>>>> 
>>>>> scholars can start adding more value to these classic texts.  There is,
>>>>> 
>>>>> however, no urgency to the matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please do let me know if you're interested in helping.  Thanks in
>>>>> advance!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking forward,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andrew Magliozzi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Founder, FinalsClub.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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