[annotator-dev] Proposal: License Simplification

Thu Jun 18 17:40:08 UTC 2015

https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt

I think that the form speaks for itself. Apache foundation uses legal help
to keep its affairs in order; I believe it to be sound practice when
external contributors (nor employees of the firm) make contributions to the
codebase.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Randall Leeds <tilgovi at hypothes.is> wrote:

> As I understand that piece, it only applies to the permission seeking (in
> the negative) insofar as we have any doubts about the originality of
> authors' contributions and therefore their ability to consent to the change.
>
> Unless we have some suspicion about the origin of code currently in the
> project (I haven't had or seen any) then this is just another benefit of
> switching (n
>
> I only write this to be sure I understand why you're bringing it up.
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 09:54 Jack Park <jackpark at topicquests.org> wrote:
>
>> Apache foundation and others use a "license-like" contract which requires
>> that contributors certify that they own the rights to their contributions,
>> things like that.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Randall Leeds <tilgovi at hypothes.is>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That sounds like a plan. Given that we haven't heard negative reactions
>>> from the community here, we are simply discussing permission from authors.
>>>
>>> I'd say let's open the issue.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, 06:53 Benjamin Young <bigbluehat at hypothes.is>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Randall Leeds <tilgovi at hypothes.is>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:54 PM Andrew Magliozzi <
>>>>> andrew at finalsclub.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This license simplification proposal has dropped off a little, and I
>>>>>> wanted to bring it back up.  It's going to be important, particularly if we
>>>>>> decide to pursue the Apache Foundation Incubator program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Andrew.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, much thanks, Drew! I didn't want to be the only one banging this
>>>> drum. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below is a list of all Annotator contributors (according to GitHub).
>>>>>> If you see your handle on that list, please try to chime in on this topic.
>>>>>>   Note: the closer you are to the top, the more your opinion matters!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a strong +1 on switching the license. I will note that we should
>>>>> be careful about "the more your opinion matters". While people near the top
>>>>> may be influential in the project community, ultimately we cannot relicense
>>>>> the work of other people without their permission.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think "getting permission" to relicense is probably what we should
>>>> focus the conversation on.
>>>>
>>>> One way to come at this is to post a GitHub issue which mentions each
>>>> of these people and asks, simply (+ some explanatory ephemera):
>>>>  - Are you OK re-licensing your contributions to Annotator under the
>>>> Apache License 2.0?
>>>>
>>>> My guess is most folks won't actually care. If there is debate, we can
>>>> move it back to the mailing list per-issue raised.
>>>>
>>>> The goal being that we get a reference-able record of +1's from each of
>>>> these folks--or know who we haven't heard from.
>>>>
>>>> We could try and do this over email, but the location would be less
>>>> "permanent" and harder to follow / track / reference later.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, this is how Twitter did it when they changed the Bootstrap
>>>> license prior to 3.0 shipping. It worked well enough (I'd forgotten I'd
>>>> even had patches in Bootstrap :-P), and didn't seem to take terribly long.
>>>>
>>>> Sound like a plan?
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to start the issue, but since I'm not a project owner it
>>>> might look odd / less official.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Benjamin
>>>>
>>>
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