[bigclean] [euopendata] Idea: screen scraping sprint -> 19.3.2011

Fri Mar 11 12:44:59 UTC 2011

Hi Antti,

Thanks for the clarification. I was just worried that people might get the impression this is an international event on the scale of the open data day last year. I think its important to make communicate clear what it is and what to expect. 

So lets keep the idea of small local preparatory events and having the big clean later this year, than properly announced and well prepared. Thanks.

Regards
Daniel

On 11.03.2011, at 12:09, Antti Poikola wrote:

> On 03/11/2011 12:21 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>> Hey Antti, Jindřich, all,
>> 
>> I was wondering about the blog post and more general about the announcement of this big clean*1. Its just 9 days left and my impression is that there is almost no publicly visible propaganda for this event.
> For me there is actually no problem if we even don't announce it, this is any how meant to be a preparatory event where we collect experiences for the real Big Clean which will come later on?
> 
>> I am very sure that you guys will make great events in Prague and Jyväskylä and may be else ware. I am just a little bit concerned to announce it as a "major global hackathon" because this might make people think about massive evolvement and responding results and so might "burn" our efforts for further events. My proposal is to announce it asap publicly on the OKFN Blog (and hopefully elsewhere) but to make a clear point that this is *not* the major big big clean, but rather a first round of local and mostly small hacking events*2.
> Who has talked about announcing this one as a major global hackathon? The global event will follow, maybe in May, this is just local preparatory twin-event. I will put my effort in getting people to Jyväskylä event and making it well. For that reason I will update some English text to the bigclean-site, but I don't really feel like actually putting it to the OKFN blog beforahand...
> 
> -Jogi
> 
>> Does this makes sense? WHat do people think?
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 1* http://bigclean.org/
>> 2* http://wiki.okfn.org/TheBigClean
>> 
>> 
>> On 07.03.2011, at 10:43, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jindrich,
>>> 
>>> On 06.03.2011, at 14:31, Jindřich Mynarz wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>> 
>>>> thank you for your work you`ve put into the Big Clean`s website. I`ve
>>>> created a page for the Czech event in Prague at
>>>> http://www.bigclean.org/praha. The page is in Czech to reflect the
>>>> language of the audience.
>>> Excellent!
>>> 
>>>> Since I don`t have the full admin rights and I can`t change the
>>>> website`s menu, can you please put a link to this page to the menu,
>>>> where you`ve created the sample page for city (where the placeholder
>>>> "Your city here" is)?
>>> Done.
>>> 
>>>> Next, I`ll plan to write some description for the international part
>>>> of the website.
>>> That would be amazing! We could also need this *asap* for a blog post on the OKF site to announce the event. @Antti: Are up for this?
>>> 
>>> Regard
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Jindrich
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Daniel Dietrich
>>>> <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>  wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.bigclean.org is online and has now some very very basic content.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have added Antti and Jildrich to be Editors of the website. Other volunteers are very welcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also re-discovered this wiki page
>>>>> 
>>>>>   http://wiki.okfn.org/TheBigClean
>>>>> 
>>>>> and I think we should communicate it as the main site for coordination of the cities since it's much easier to access and edit for everyone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, let's move ahead and quickly add content to the wiki / wp site and make this a real great event!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Dietrich
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> On 04.03.2011, at 10:09, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Antti and others,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.bigclean.org is part of the Word Press multisite of the OKFN. If you would like contribute with content, etc you will need to register as a "community member" at the OKFN
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  http://okfn.org/register/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will then add you as a editor to the Big Clean. Please ping me of list once you have registered or if you need any assistance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have started with a theme (I hope you like it) but encounter a problem with the images. More precisely with timthumb.php that makes tumbnails and rezises images. I had to change :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  $src = preg_replace("/\.\.+\//", "", $src);
>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>  $src = preg_replace("/files/", "/wp-content/blogs.dir/26/files/", $src);
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just in case that someone has similar problems. Now it works and we can start adding content.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 03.03.2011, at 19:55, Antti Poikola wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cool Daniel!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Could I get rights to create content:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> username: apoikola
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Jogi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 03/03/2011 04:37 PM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> website is online: http://bigclean.org/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am now working on design / themeing
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And adding some structure and content to the side. More later today...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 03.03.2011, at 12:29, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2 March 2011 19:46, Antti Poikola<antti.poikola at gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Really great response from so many people and special thanks to Daniel for
>>>>>>>>>> volunteering to halp with the site!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> About the general categories of data "what to scrape", I think we can take
>>>>>>>>>> the list from below and give it as inspiration for the participants.
>>>>>>>>> Can I make a suggestion: use http://ckan.net/ :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Specifically let's agree the tag: bigclean (or thebigclean) and then
>>>>>>>>> just tag (and register) relevant datasets on ckan. Remember you can
>>>>>>>>> register datasets on CKAN which don't yet have any downloadable
>>>>>>>>> resources (but would after the big clean ;) )
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -Jogi
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> PS:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I allready invited some of you in person to subscribe to the list where we
>>>>>>>>>> organize the Big Clean - bigclean at lists.okfn.org. But here the subscription
>>>>>>>>>> link for all: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/bigclean
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/02/2011 06:36 PM, Chris Taggart wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head, I'd say (and some of them overlap):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Democratic data: elected members, committee membership, meetings,
>>>>>>>>>> minutes, agendas, electoral districts
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Financial data: spending, accounts, budgets, contracts
>>>>>>>>>> 3) Geographic data: boundaries (inc electoral districts), buildings,
>>>>>>>>>> assets (e.g. schools, hospital, depots)
>>>>>>>>>> 4) Demographic data (often held by national statistics bodies)
>>>>>>>>>> 5) Performance data - education, social care, road maintenance, etc,
>>>>>>>>>> which is often delivered at the local level.
>>>>>>>>>> 6) Policy data: forward plans, zoning/planning approvals
>>>>>>>>>> 7) Transport data
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to see OpenlyLocal be the focus of some of this, in part
>>>>>>>>>> because it makes sense, in part because we've done a lot of the work
>>>>>>>>>> and could avoid reinventing the wheel, in part because it would be
>>>>>>>>>> nice to get other countries' data in there, and in part it would be
>>>>>>>>>> nice to get some EU funding for what up to now has been entirely
>>>>>>>>>> self-funded ;-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We've also been pretty successful at doing scoreboards that make a
>>>>>>>>>> difference (over 70 UK councils now with open data sections).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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