[ckan-dev] Deprecated: related items (Apps & Ideas)

Fri Sep 11 12:06:20 UTC 2015

+1 re 'as an aside' Machines are the primary users...

*STEVEN DE COSTA *|
*EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR*www.linkdigital.com.au

On 11 September 2015 at 21:32, David Read <david.read at hackneyworkshop.com>
wrote:

> Carl,
>
> Related Items was not designed for relating datasets to other datasets,
> but I see that you could use it for that. There are two alternatives that
> you could use to replace it, though:
>
> 1. It would be simple to have an extra field instead. It's well documented
> how to add a field to the form & underlying schema and you just need to
> adjust the template to display it on the dataset page.
> 2. You could take advantage of the 'package relationships' model that
> exists in CKAN but has no UI. Again you need to adjust the form, schema &
> dataset view template.
>
> As an aside, I've struggled to find compelling use cases to show
> relationships between datasets. Some people talk about wanting to show
> 'parent/child' relationships, or 'related to' or 'is similar to'. But the
> nature of the relationship always seemed difficult to define clearly in a
> way that is useful for datasets en mass. I think they tend to be
> conveniences for the human user, rather than useful machine-readable
> metadata.
>
> So what might be more appropriate is to show next to a dataset other
> similar datasets, which is automatically filled based on similarity in the
> metadata record. So two with similar titles because they are about the same
> thing, would reference each other. As might two that share an ArcGIS layer.
>
> David
>
> On 11 September 2015 at 11:50, Carl Lange <carl at derilinx.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After deprecation, is there another feature planned to allow relation of
>> datasets to one another? For example, I have two datasets which are of the
>> same ArcGIS layer, and I'd like to 'relate' them so that end users are able
>> to see that they are connected at the source. Removing apps, dataviz etc
>> from this feature makes sense, but relating datasets is still a useful
>> feature.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> On 4 September 2015 at 14:21, Steven De Costa <
>> steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks David!
>>>
>>> I really appreciate this notice AND the approach it represents. CKAN is
>>> an awesome data management system. I think it will retain this awesome
>>> status by remaining its focus on core workflows.
>>>
>>> The related data use cases is something of a content addition for what
>>> I'd say are tertiary users of CKAN. Primary are machines, secondary are
>>> data custodians.
>>>
>>> Having this as an extension makes more sense as CKAN continues to be
>>> adopted for Government open data, open research data and even open private
>>> sector data.
>>>
>>> Plus one and two thumbs up from me. And, big props to the developers
>>> contributing to the related use case extension as it is very cool :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015, David Read <david.read at hackneyworkshop.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ! Warning for all CKAN admins !
>>>>
>>>> We will be removing the 'related items' feature in the next version of
>>>> CKAN (v2.5 expected around December). Several sites use this core ckan
>>>> feature to list "Apps" or "Apps & Ideas".
>>>>
>>>> It has been replaced by the ckanext-showcase extension, which allows
>>>> 'showcasing' apps, vizualizations, news items etc associated with
>>>> datasets. It includes a paster script to copy existing related items
>>>> into showcase ones. Since ckanext-showcase works with existing
>>>> versions of CKAN (2.3+), we suggest all sites migrate in advance of
>>>> the CKAN 2.5 release.
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/ckan/ckanext-showcase
>>>>
>>>> David
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