[ckan-dev] IRC channel

Tue Sep 25 10:05:11 UTC 2018

Works for me. I just used my GitHub account to log in. I’ll update the docs.

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On 25. September 2018 at 11:56:11, Adrià Mercader (adria.mercader at okfn.org<mailto:adria.mercader at okfn.org>) wrote:

Happy to give Gitter a go. I had reserved the ckan namespace years ago just in case, so I went ahead and created a public chat:

https://gitter.im/ckan/chat

If it works fine it would be great if you could update the docs Kevin, I'll update the website and the IRC channel topic.

Can people try to join to see if it's working? Also I'd like to know what kind of account users need to join (Github, Twitter or ar Gitter one)

I'll miss IRC too, but the truth is that with the latest spam waves and having to restrict access to registered users the number of people on the chat has reduced drastically.
For those that really want to stuck with IRC there's always https://irc.gitter.im/

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 13:54, Kevin Brochet-Nguyen <kevin at viderum.com<mailto:kevin at viderum.com>> wrote:
So far no one opposes switching to a new chat solution and everyone who’s replied is in favor of Gitter. Are there any objections? If not, let’s get it set up. I’ll be happy to update the docs and get things set up.

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On 17. September 2018 at 17:29:26, Angelos Tzotsos (gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com<mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>) wrote:

+1 for Gitter, since it is open for all to join (similar to IRC policy right now)

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Angelos

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:59 PM Florian Hoedt <florian.hoedt at thuenen.de<mailto:florian.hoedt at thuenen.de>> wrote:
Hi there,
+1 for gitter, too

Easy and free.

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Von: "Steven De Costa" <steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au<mailto:steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au>>
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Gesendet: Montag, 17. September 2018 16:41:58
Betreff: Re: [ckan-dev] IRC channel

Change my +1 to Gitter please :) I‘m sold on Tyler’s points. Including NOT using IRC to make things a bit more accessible for non tech folks (sorry to cherry pick on that point).

Cheers,
Steven

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Tyler Kennedy <tk at tkte.ch<mailto:tk at tkte.ch>> wrote:
Hey all,

Having gone through this with other groups, I'd say anything but slack. I know some people enjoy it and I'd go with whatever the majority goes for, but:

1. Slack caps history search unless you pay at least $6.99 USD per user, per month. Chat history not retained is knowledge lost, especially for a technical open-source project. Almost all other alternatives allow unlimited history for no cost. (This has come back to bite almost every group I've ever been a part of which switched to Slack)
2. Slack allows self-signup, and API-based signup as a paid feature only. Although many slacks are running 3rd party programs hosted by a volunteer to do automatic account creation, slack can and has permanently deleted slacks without notice for using it.
3. Slack is a completely closed black box. They allowed IRC and XMPP integration just long enough to get users, then immediately killed them. Several alternatives (such as gitter) are completely open source and free.

Honestly, I prefer IRC, but I can see myself being in the minority here especially if we want to engage more non-technical end-users. As a developer, I've been on Freenode consistently for over a decade and watched many alternatives come and go. If we really want a different option I would suggest gitter because it is open source and 100% free.

Thank you,
Tyler Kennedy

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:09 AM Steven De Costa <steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au<mailto:steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au>> wrote:
+1 for slack.

I‘ve never worked IRC into my day but slack appears to have a viral hold on people. What‘s one more group gonna do? :)

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Konstantin Sivakov <konstantin.sivakov at keitaro.com<mailto:konstantin.sivakov at keitaro.com>> wrote:
Hello community,
With latest spam occurring on IRC and notification for botobot shooting down, maybe we should consider a different option for communications with developers, users and other folk interested in CKAN and its extensions.

The trends are Slack and Gitter, but there are few different options as well

Lets hear all of your opinions

Thanks!
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