[ckan-discuss] s/package/data set/g

Tue Jul 26 09:27:03 BST 2011

On 26 July 2011 08:37, Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas at deri.org> wrote:
>
> I'm still +1 re dataset but if the majority thinks that package is the
> 'better' term (for whatever 'better' means in this context) I guess I'll
> just shut up.
>
>>>> I'm certainly -1 on this because I think it might confuse the users.
>
> Jindra, that's an interesting question. Who *are* the users? Can anyone
> point me to a precise definition of what we consider a profile of a typical
> and maybe a not-so-typical (aka power user), please? Maybe I've missed this
> one ...

This is a very good question and perhaps worth discussing in context
of this wiki page which came out of earlier discussion on this:

<http://wiki.ckan.net/User_Stories>

Rufus

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> On 26 Jul 2011, at 08:27, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
>> I personally prefer 'package' also. My thinking was that dataset would
>> be less confusing. From Jindřich's comments, that assumption may not
>> be valid and there are probably more important tickets to work on.
>>
>> Have we had any direct complaints? If not, I suggest that we focus on
>> other areas.
>>
>> 2011/7/26 Pablo Mendes <pablomendes at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Have you guys discussed what to do with "resources" when package becomes
>>> dataset? Datasets continue containing resources? Or datasets contain
>>> datasets?
>>>
>>> I didn't really have anything against package. Does "data package" please
>>> greeks and trojans?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Pablo
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2011 10:45 AM, "Jindřich Mynarz" <mynarzjindrich at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm certainly -1 on this because I think it might confuse the users.
>>>> The package is not the dataset, it's a *description* (metadata) of the
>>>> dataset [1]. Maybe it's not the best term to use, but it's better than
>>>> to lead users to expect they can find the datasets themselves at the
>>>> Data Hub.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Jindrich
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MagrittePipe.jpg
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 July 2011 05:17, Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas at deri.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that the term "package" should be removed from thedatahub.org
>>>>>>> and replaced with "data set" or "dataset". While CKAN is to be the
>>>>>>> Debian of data, I think "dataset" would lead to fewer mental steps
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> new comers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> This has already been discussed quite a lot (e.g. it's one of the
>>>>> items on the UX refactor page: <http://wiki.ckan.net/UX>) and I think
>>>>> there is general agreement on this. The issue here is that it is a
>>>>> (relatively) costly refactor so we are waiting for the right time to
>>>>> do it (we can try doing it slightly 'hackily' by just using i18n but I
>>>>> think this is a short term approach).
>>>>>
>>>>> Rufus
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