[ckan-discuss] A remark on the EU Hackaton

Wed Sep 14 13:45:06 BST 2011

I'd suggest:  "EU Open Data Working Group" <euopendata at lists.okfn.org>,

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>wrote:

> Hi Erik,
>
> I think this is interesting but starting to get off-topic for ckan-discuss
> :-) Is it time to take this to a take dedicated thread or move to a list
> like okfn-help or getthedata-discuss?
>
> Rufus
>
> On 14 September 2011 12:39, Erik Wesselius <erik at corporateeurope.org>wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> Interesting. I had heard of this EU Hackaton <http://www.euhackathon.eu/>,
>> but then forgot about it again.
>>
>> I don't want to spoil  the party, but I think it is relevant (and
>> problematic) that the EU Hackaton is organised by N-SQUARE<http://www.n-square.eu/>,
>> a lobbying consultancy that is specialising in telecoms, internet, new media
>> and web 2.0 issues, lobbying on behalf of big players with a direct
>> commercial interest in EU IT policies. *Those who participate in the EU
>> Hackaton should at least be aware of these corporate links of the host
>> organisation*.
>>
>> In the EU lobby transparency register, N-Square declares the following
>> clients:<http://ec.europa.eu/transparencyregister/public/consultation/displaylobbyist.do?id=61008951870-83>
>>
>>    Total turnover: 100000  € - 150000  €
>>     *Clients generating a turnover of 10 % - 20 %.*
>>
>>    - EIAA
>>
>>
>>    - Google
>>
>>
>>
>>     *Clients generating a turnover of 20 % - 30 %.*
>>
>>    - VON Europe
>>
>>
>>
>>     *Clients generating a turnover of 30 % - 40 %.*
>>
>>    - The Number
>>
>>
>> EIAA stands for the European Interactive Advertising Association. This
>> association recently merged into IAB Europe<http://www.iabeurope.eu/About.aspx>,
>> the EU office of the Interactive Advertising Bureau -- they write on
>> their website <http://www.iabeurope.eu/public-affairs.aspx> they have one
>> in house lobbyist in Brussels, but IAB Europe is not listed on the EU lobby
>> transparency register.
>>
>> VON Europe <http://www.voneurope.eu/category/mission/> is an industry
>> coalition of the voice for the Internet-enabled communications (VoIP)
>> industry. According to recent lobbying documents issued by VON Europe, the
>> coalition includes companies like iBasis, Google, Microsoft, Rebtel, Skype
>> and Voxbonehe coalition,which includes iBasis, Google, Microsoft, Rebtel,
>> Skype and Voxbone,. The founder/owner of N-Square, Caroline de Cock (
>> @linotherino <http://twitter.com/#%21/linotherhino>) is executive
>> director of VON Europe. VON Europe is not listed on the EU lobby
>> transparency register.
>>
>> The Number Company is a commercial directory enquiries provider which is a
>> subsidiary of the US-based directory enquiries provider Knowledge Generation
>> Bureau (formerly InfoNXX). *As an amusing sidenote, the abbreviation for
>> the parent firm of the Number Company is KGB.* According to lobbying
>> documents issued by The Number Company, the company does have an "Executive
>> Director, Government and Business Affairs – Europe", but the firm is not
>> listed in the voluntary EU lobby transparency register.
>>
>> Since a few months, Caroline de Cock is executive director of the European
>> Centre for Public Affairs (ECPA) <http://www.theecpa.eu/>, which over the
>> past 6 years has been one of the organisations representing the interests of
>> corporate lobbyists in Brussels, and which has systematically undermined the
>> public interest campaign for EU lobbying transparency and ethics rules (see
>> the website of ALTER-EU, the Alliance for Lobbying Transparency and
>> Ethics Regulation <http://www.alter-eu.org>). ECPA is not on the EU lobby
>> transparency register.
>>
>> Erik Wesselius
>> Corporate Europe Observatory
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/09/11 11:56, stef wrote:
>>
>> hey,
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 09:13:43AM +0200, Erik Wesselius wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks a lot for your help. I think the datasethttp://parltrack.euwiki.org/dumps/ is exactly what more-onion is
>> looking for and I have forwarded the information to Florian.
>>
>>  great. altough we don't provide csv/spreadsheet formated dumps yet, we have
>> started investigating this.
>>
>> btw have you looked into the apps themselves? http://www.parltrack.euwiki.org
>> and http://memopol2.lqdn.fr
>>
>>  Quite exciting that this information is available as open data!
>>
>>  there's quite a lot actually:https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Parliamentary_informaticshttp://ckan.net/dataset?q=european+parliament
>>
>>  I think that many many people and public interest groups working on EU
>> issues would find this extremely useful.
>>
>>  infact we are doing this for public interests groups, we're working with
>> laquadrature du net, EFF and EDRi on these topics, other digital rights
>> and journalist organizations might be also infected. ;)
>>
>>
>>  Which makes me think that it might be a good idea to organise an open-data
>> "teach in" in Brussels for public interest groups working on EU issues.
>>
>>  indeed. we do engage in these things. in october there'll be a hacks for
>> transparency in the EP organized by N-squared.
>> http://www.euhackathon.eu/
>>
>> where the european parliament free software user group is having a side event
>> on exactly some tools we have for disinfecting eu politics. ;)
>>
>>
>>  Let's start thinking about this :-)
>>
>>  pls consider either the week of the ep hackaton for such events, i'm anyway in
>> bxl then. or we should make up some other date so we can start working towards
>> that.
>>
>>
>>  Kind greetings on what may prove to be a crucial day for Europe and the euro,
>>
>>  i guess the "crucial day for the euro" is unrelated to the parl-data we scrape,
>> right?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> email:   erik at corporateeurope.org
>>
>> phone:   +31-(0)30-2364422
>> mobile:  +32-(0)476-901587 (only when I'm in Belgium)
>> skype:   zilverling
>> twitter: erikwesselius
>>
>> website: http://www.corporateeurope.org
>>
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