[ckan-discuss] Investigation of CKAN and data set persistent identifiers on the interent

[Rufus Pollock]

Hi Hilton,

To add to this: having DOI support in CKAN is *really, really* easy - the
issue here is that to actually turn on DOIs would require you to get
registered as a DOI issuer (if you are a coder think of this as analogous
to the disqus based comment support - that support is in CKAN but turning
on requires you to register with disqus and get your key).

The issue so far is not that it is at all difficult to have DOI support
into CKAN (we already have a cite setup if you want it) but finding a CKAN
user who has actually got registered as a DOI provider (usual route is via
DataCite coalition) and therefore can test it out.

We - as in Open Knowledge Foundation - actually had a long chat with
various DataCite providers about getting signed up so we could have DOIs
for datahub.io but cost was something of an issue in initial conversation
(we were quoted figures like 5k per year by a UK based DataCite member).

To summarize: if you want DOI support in CKAN that is *really* easy - so
easy, that if we actually had a real user for this I think we can guarantee
rapid implementation by someone in the community (I'll backstop that by
saying i'll even do it!). So if you want to see it happen please upvote the
relevant issue in the roadmap (see you already commenting)
https://trello.com/c/dlzGQGdH/98-discovery-ability-to-assign-dois-datacite-to-datasets
 :-)

Rufus



On 14 October 2013 12:43, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ross
>
> Checked the github issues - no luck.
>
> From here: http://thedata.org/book/features
> "Generate a formal data citation <http://thedata.org/citation> with a
> persistent identifier and URL (DOI or a handle registered to the
> Handle.net <http://handle.net/> service) and Universal Numerical
> Fingerprint <http://thedata.org/book/unf> (UNF) for verification and
> validation of the dataset.
> "
>
> And no luck with the ckan4rdm list.
>
> Cheers
>
> hg
>
>
>
>
> On 14 October 2013 13:06, Ross Jones <ross at servercode.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That trac instance is almost certainly out of date now, most of the
>> issues are on github.com/okfn/ckan/issues now.  Although that specific
>> ticket is, I suppose still relevant.
>>
>> I think the DOI integration was waiting for someone to either do the work
>> involved, or to fund development of OKF doing the work.  There may have
>> been  mention of it on the CKAN 4 Research Data Management list (
>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/ckan4rdm) but as far as I'm aware
>> this hasn't been implemented yet.
>>
>> There is an entry on Trello (
>> https://trello.com/c/dlzGQGdH/98-discovery-ability-to-assign-dois-datacite-to-datasets )
>> which may be worth voting for, and possibly adding what you believe it
>> should consist of.
>>
>> Ross.
>>
>> On 14 Oct 2013, at 11:39, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> We are evaluating CKAN for possible open data deployment.
>> See: http://wiki.lib.sun.ac.za/index.php/OpenData
>>
>> When checking the features, I see that unique identification of data
>> sets via some external service is missing.
>> Am I correct?
>>
>> I found the following TRAC tickets referring to DOI's and Handle's
>> respectively.
>> http://trac.ckan.org/ticket/1145
>> http://trac.ckan.org/ticket/1429
>>
>> How can researcher cite a data set hosted on a CKAN system, on the
>> internet.
>> What method does CKAN use?
>>
>> Regards
>>
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