[ckan-discuss] DOIs/Persistent identifiers

Tue Oct 15 02:18:08 BST 2013

Hi Rufus/Hilton
                I may be able to get access to a test account from EZID.  I'll contact you outside the discussion group so we can progress, and once we know more we can update everyone.

Cheers
Aaron

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:40:10 +0100
From: Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>
Subject: Re: [ckan-discuss] Investigation of CKAN and data set
        persistent identifiers on the interent
To: Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson at gmail.com>
Cc: CKAN discuss <ckan-discuss at lists.okfn.org>, "Smith, Ina"
        <ismith at sun.ac.za>,     "Raju, R, Dr <rraju at sun.ac.za>" <rraju at sun.ac.za>
Message-ID:
        <CAKssCpMA+zg8eiV2+6Dk+AE7PxkKK9sT8c7tbrwx8D5UsPp-Yw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Hilton,

To add to this: having DOI support in CKAN is *really, really* easy - the issue here is that to actually turn on DOIs would require you to get registered as a DOI issuer (if you are a coder think of this as analogous to the disqus based comment support - that support is in CKAN but turning on requires you to register with disqus and get your key).

The issue so far is not that it is at all difficult to have DOI support into CKAN (we already have a cite setup if you want it) but finding a CKAN user who has actually got registered as a DOI provider (usual route is via DataCite coalition) and therefore can test it out.

We - as in Open Knowledge Foundation - actually had a long chat with various DataCite providers about getting signed up so we could have DOIs for datahub.io but cost was something of an issue in initial conversation (we were quoted figures like 5k per year by a UK based DataCite member).

To summarize: if you want DOI support in CKAN that is *really* easy - so easy, that if we actually had a real user for this I think we can guarantee rapid implementation by someone in the community (I'll backstop that by saying i'll even do it!). So if you want to see it happen please upvote the relevant issue in the roadmap (see you already commenting) https://trello.com/c/dlzGQGdH/98-discovery-ability-to-assign-dois-datacite-to-datasets
 :-)

Rufus

On 14 October 2013 12:43, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ross
>
> Checked the github issues - no luck.
>
> From here: http://thedata.org/book/features "Generate a formal data
> citation <http://thedata.org/citation> with a persistent identifier
> and URL (DOI or a handle registered to the Handle.net
> <http://handle.net/> service) and Universal Numerical Fingerprint
> <http://thedata.org/book/unf> (UNF) for verification and validation of
> the dataset.
> "
>
> And no luck with the ckan4rdm list.
>
> Cheers
>
> hg
>
>
>
>
> On 14 October 2013 13:06, Ross Jones <ross at servercode.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That trac instance is almost certainly out of date now, most of the
>> issues are on github.com/okfn/ckan/issues now.  Although that
>> specific ticket is, I suppose still relevant.
>>
>> I think the DOI integration was waiting for someone to either do the
>> work involved, or to fund development of OKF doing the work.  There
>> may have been  mention of it on the CKAN 4 Research Data Management
>> list (
>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/ckan4rdm) but as far as I'm
>> aware this hasn't been implemented yet.
>>
>> There is an entry on Trello (
>> https://trello.com/c/dlzGQGdH/98-discovery-ability-to-assign-dois-dat
>> acite-to-datasets ) which may be worth voting for, and possibly
>> adding what you believe it should consist of.
>>
>> Ross.
>>
>> On 14 Oct 2013, at 11:39, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> We are evaluating CKAN for possible open data deployment.
>> See: http://wiki.lib.sun.ac.za/index.php/OpenData
>>
>> When checking the features, I see that unique identification of data
>> sets via some external service is missing.
>> Am I correct?
>>
>> I found the following TRAC tickets referring to DOI's and Handle's
>> respectively.
>> http://trac.ckan.org/ticket/1145
>> http://trac.ckan.org/ticket/1429
>>
>> How can researcher cite a data set hosted on a CKAN system, on the
>> internet.
>> What method does CKAN use?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> *Hilton Gibson*
>> Ubuntu Linux Systems Administrator
>> JS Gericke Library
>> Room 1025D
>> Stellenbosch University
>> Private Bag X5036
>> Stellenbosch
>> 7599
>> South Africa
>>
>> Tel: +27 21 808 4100 | Cell: +27 84 646 4758 http://library.sun.ac.za
>> http://za.linkedin.com/in/hiltongibson
>> http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/docs/cv/cv.html
>>  _______________________________________________
>> ckan-discuss mailing list
>> ckan-discuss at lists.okfn.org
>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/ckan-discuss
>> Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/ckan-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Hilton Gibson*
> Ubuntu Linux Systems Administrator
> JS Gericke Library
> Room 1025D
> Stellenbosch University
> Private Bag X5036
> Stellenbosch
> 7599
> South Africa
>
> Tel: +27 21 808 4100 | Cell: +27 84 646 4758 http://library.sun.ac.za
> http://za.linkedin.com/in/hiltongibson
> http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/docs/cv/cv.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> ckan-discuss mailing list
> ckan-discuss at lists.okfn.org
> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/ckan-discuss
> Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/ckan-discuss
>
>

--
*

Rufus Pollock

Founder and Executive Director | skype: rufuspollock | @rufuspollock<https://twitter.com/rufuspollock>

The Open Knowledge Foundation <http://okfn.org/>

Empowering through Open Knowledge
http://okfn.org/ | @okfn <http://twitter.com/OKFN> | OKF on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/OKFNetwork>|
Blog <http://blog.okfn.org/>  |  Newsletter<http://okfn.org/about/newsletter>

*
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ckan-discuss/attachments/20131015/91625b5a/attachment.htm>

------------------------------

_______________________________________________
ckan-discuss mailing list
ckan-discuss at lists.okfn.org
http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/ckan-discuss
Unsubscribe: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/optionss/ckan-discuss

End of ckan-discuss Digest, Vol 45, Issue 19
********************************************

________________________________

Please consider the environment before printing this email
Warning: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not read, use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails.
The views expressed in this email may not be those of Landcare Research New Zealand Limited. http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz