[CKAN-support] [ECODP-dev] EU ODP - 342

[David Raznick]

Hello

The cookie expires is in seconds so that is about 3 hours.  So you can
make it delete sessions much more recently than that.  7 days was a
completely over the top.

Thanks

David

On 27 January 2014 21:35, Bert Van Nuffelen
<bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> for EU ODP, there is a cookie expiration time. If that is larger as 7 days
> then the cronjob should not erase them. Or am I seeing a dependency here
> that is not true?
>
> beaker.session.key = ckan
> beaker.session.secret = /BUsz/A9vt9jSl2gBkAeBsUWP
> beaker.session.httponly = false
> beaker.session.secure = true
> beaker.session.cookie_expires = 10000
>
>
> kind regards,
>
> Bert
>
> 2014-01-27 David Raznick <david.raznick at okfn.org>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The cronjob itself checks for files older than 7 days and all sessions
>> should have expired by then.  The age of the file is when the session
>> started.
>>
>> So there is no need for any syncing and can be run every day as each
>> run will only delete old files.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 January 2014 19:23, Bert Van Nuffelen
>> <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>> > Hi David,
>> >
>> > thanks for the explaination and the pointer.
>> >
>> > How do we sync between the session timeout and the cronjob-cleanup?
>> >
>> > kind regards,
>> >
>> > Bert
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-01-27 David Raznick <david.raznick at okfn.org>
>> >>
>> >> On 27 January 2014 14:59, Bert Van Nuffelen
>> >> <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi David,
>> >> >
>> >> > so for this: what has to be be done to avoid the changes to happen?
>> >> >
>> >> > a) a cronjob to remove the sessions, on which timebasis?
>> >>
>> >> Daily is fine.  The cron only looks at session that are old.
>> >>
>> >> > b) removing a session was is the impact?
>> >>
>> >> None if the session is old.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > kind regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Bert
>> >>
>> >> The script we normally run is the following.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/okfn/ckan-packaging/blob/master/etc/cron.daily/remove_old_sessions
>> >>
>> >> It is set to run daily but remove sessions that are older than 10 days
>> >> old.
>> >>
>> >> I am pretty sure ec are using memcached so this should not be an
>> >> issue.  Would it be possible to have a copy of the config file other
>> >> wise its hard to tell what is going on.
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2014-01-27 Bert Van Nuffelen <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>
>> >> >
>> >> >> Dear David,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the system is the eu odp that OKF has delivered to us. Nothing is
>> >> >> added
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> it, unless you have specified.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> kind regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bert
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2014-01-27 David Raznick <david.raznick at okfn.org>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hello
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> There should be a cron set up on the server to remove the old
>> >> >>> sessions.  This was definitely a part of the server deployment
>> >> >>> scripts
>> >> >>> that we sent over.  I am wondering if this got lost.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Also are they using memcached for their session data now?  If they
>> >> >>> are
>> >> >>> then this should not be an issue as they have a proper expiry.  It
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> hard to tell what is going on as we have no access to their system.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> David
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 27 January 2014 11:32, Bert Van Nuffelen
>> >> >>> <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Dear Darwin, David and Adam,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > We have received a critical bug from the EU ODP project. Can you
>> >> >>> > take
>> >> >>> > care
>> >> >>> > of it. Can we have tomorrow a short call on how you will deal
>> >> >>> > with
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > issue?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > kind regards,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Bert
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > The ticket content is the following:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > "After further investigations regarding the current problem on
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > prod
>> >> >>> > frontend we have found that the problem is not linked to our
>> >> >>> > archive,
>> >> >>> > but to
>> >> >>> > a problem with CKAN which should be resolved by TenForce / AHRS.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > In a nutshell, CKAN is not closing its sessions at all and
>> >> >>> > therefore
>> >> >>> > uses up
>> >> >>> > a huge amount of inodes which ultimately we now did run out of.
>> >> >>> > Here
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > a
>> >> >>> > post on the official CKAN mailing list where someone else
>> >> >>> > describes
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > same
>> >> >>> > problem:
>> >> >>> > https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ckan-dev/2011-June/000925.html
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > This is a blocking issue, there is currently no ingestion by
>> >> >>> > batch,
>> >> >>> > ingestion by web interface will probably fail and we are
>> >> >>> > currently
>> >> >>> > not
>> >> >>> > receiving any new files on the production machine either. This
>> >> >>> > has
>> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>> > be
>> >> >>> > resolved ASAP.
>> >> >>> > "
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > Bert Van Nuffelen
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>> >> >>> > www.tenforce.be
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
>> >> >>> > Office: +32 (0)16 31 48 60
>> >> >>> > Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
>> >> >>> > skype: bert.van.nuffelen
>> >> >>> >
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bert Van Nuffelen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>> >> >> www.tenforce.be
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
>> >> >> Office: +32 (0)16 31 48 60
>> >> >> Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
>> >> >> skype: bert.van.nuffelen
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Bert Van Nuffelen
>> >> >
>> >> > Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>> >> > www.tenforce.be
>> >> >
>> >> > Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
>> >> > Office: +32 (0)16 31 48 60
>> >> > Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
>> >> > skype: bert.van.nuffelen
>> >> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bert Van Nuffelen
>> >
>> > Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>> > www.tenforce.be
>> >
>> > Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
>> > Office: +32 (0)16 31 48 60
>> > Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
>> > skype: bert.van.nuffelen
>> >
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> Bert Van Nuffelen
>
> Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
> www.tenforce.be
>
> Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
> Office: +32 (0)16 31 48 60
> Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
> skype: bert.van.nuffelen
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