[datacatalogs] Fwd: Potential addition to http://datacatalogs.org
Laura Newman
laura.newman at okfn.org
Fri Feb 10 11:42:08 UTC 2012
Hi Data Catalogs team,
[@Alex, moving your query on-list - if you sign up at
http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/data-catalogs you will be able to
post too :)]
Following on from our previous discussion:
If the Water and Environmental Hub were to add 'share' to the terms of
license for their metadata, would we be able to add them to the data
catalog? For full details of their project, see:
http://www.waterenvironmentalhub.com
The new terms of service would read:
By posting and sharing content with WEHUB, the user retains copyright of
the original content. You agree to grant WEHUB a perpetual, royalty-free,
nonexclusive, irrevocable license to use, modify, reproduce, adapt, edit,
perform analysis on, publish, display, share and distribute the submitted
content. WEHUB is not obligated to treat such content as confidential or
proprietary)
Thanks for your advice!
Laura
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca>
Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [datacatalogs] Potential addition to http://datacatalogs.org
To: Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org>
Hi Laura,
Thanks for vetting this with your colleagues.
So if I understand what you're suggesting, if we add "share" to that
statement in our current Terms of Service then we are OK? Such as this:
By posting and sharing content with WEHUB, the user retains copyright of
the original content. You agree to grant WEHUB a perpetual, royalty-free,
nonexclusive, irrevocable license to use, modify, reproduce, adapt, edit,
perform analysis on, publish, display, share and distribute the submitted
content. WEHUB is not obligated to treat such content as confidential or
proprietary.
If so, I will make that change immediately.
Alex
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> I apologise for the slow response. I have been consulting with my
> colleagues about how best to take this forward. We're delighted that you
> have such a clear commitment towards making your data open, but I'm afraid
> our conclusion is that your licenses are currently not quite open enough
> for us to add you to the Data Catalog.
>
> My colleague pointed out that the key question from the perspective of
> datacatalogs.org is how the *metadata* is licensed - i.e. the records
> stored on WEHub. The T&Cs state:
>
> "By posting and sharing content with WEHUB, the user retains copyright of
> the original content. You agree to grant WEHUB a perpetual, royalty-free,
> nonexclusive, irrevocable license to use, modify, reproduce, adapt, edit,
> perform analysis on, publish, display and distribute the submitted content."
>
> He felt that this was missing the clause to 'share', hence meaning that it
> wasn't open.
>
> I very much appreciate that this leaglese is frustrating! If you would
> like further advice, I suggest you sign up to our data catalogs mailing
> list (http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/data-catalogs) and post a
> message there. You will reach a wider audience who are better placed to
> advise you on the technicalities than I am.
>
> Thank you for your patience, and do keep me informed as your licensing
> situation progresses.
>
> Kind regards,
> Laura
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca>wrote:
>
>> Hi Laura,
>>
>> As we wait for our legal department to ruminate on this topic...
>>
>> If we update our Terms of Service with a clarifying statement such as the
>> following, would you consider adding our site to your data catalog? Or can
>> you suggest better language such that we can communicate this idea better?
>>
>> *"Each data set or web service that can be accessed via the Water and
>> Environmental Hub includes meta data and a description of the license
>> affixed by the data creator. In general, the Water and Environmental Hub
>> promotes the open accessibility of data and seeks to work with data
>> providers who wish to make their data open. We are aligned with
>> OpenDefinition.Org's definition of open data, 'A piece of content or
>> data is open if anyone is free to use, reuse, and redistribute it — subject
>> only, at most, to the requirement to attribute and share-alike' (
>> http://opendefinition.org) and offer the ability for data providers to
>> select a Creative Commons license to attach to each data set they publish
>> on our platform."*
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> This sounds great - you seem to be going through all the right
>>> processes, and it sounds like you're well on your way to having a clear
>>> open access license in place.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately we can't add your project into the catalog until you have
>>> this legalese finalised. This is not just a policy issue - one of the
>>> fields we have to complete to upload a data catalog includes details of its
>>> licensing. If you drop me another email once the next iteration of your
>>> project is live, I'd be delighted to add it to the catalog.
>>>
>>> Keep up the great work, and let me know when you're ready to go!
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>>
>>>> We are in the midst of getting the "legalese" that emphasizes the
>>>> project's vision and mission to make water and environmental data more open
>>>> and accessible. In the next iteration, hopefully we will be able to clarify
>>>> more of the text and terms of use and ensure it effectively communicates
>>>> the goal of this project towards open data.
>>>>
>>>> For registered users, our share/upload data feature includes the
>>>> requirement for the user to indicate that the dataset they are uploading
>>>> and sharing has a Creative Commons license attached to it. And this CC
>>>> license will appear on the dataset detailed view in our next iteration
>>>> coming in a few weeks. This will provide information similar to what you
>>>> suggested (e.g. http://opendefinition.org/buttons/).
>>>>
>>>> As well, we are going through the data currently being aggregated by
>>>> the platform and have identified a few datasets that likely are not
>>>> licensed for open distribution and thus will be deleted.
>>>>
>>>> If you have further thoughts or suggestions, please let us know.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>
>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>
>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>
>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>
>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png] <http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>
>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur and support
>>>> innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the use of
>>>> cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Laura Newman <laura.newman at okfn.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for your email. I apologise for the delay in adding your
>>>>> dataset to the catalog - Jonathan had a lot of work to hand over before he
>>>>> went on sabbatical.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have taken a look at your project and would be delighted to add it
>>>>> to the datacatalogs.org list. However, I have struggled to find your
>>>>> license terms on your site. I found
>>>>> http://waterenvironmentalhub.ca/terms-of-service, but as far as I
>>>>> could see this made no explicit reference to openness.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be great if you could clarify with me that your data is
>>>>> openly licensed, and perhaps put this information somewhere prominent on
>>>>> your site. Specifically, you may wish to use a web button (e.g.
>>>>> http://opendefinition.org/buttons/), explicitly state the name of
>>>>> your license, or make a statement to the effect that your data is free for
>>>>> anyone to use, re-use and re-distribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to your reply, and will add your project to the
>>>>> datacatalog once you have confirmed that the content is open.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Laura
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been corresponding with Jonathon Gray re adding our project to
>>>>>> the http://datacatalogs.org list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand he is now on sabbatical and I can't find our project
>>>>>> listed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would someone be able to add our project?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png] <http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur and
>>>>>> support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the use of
>>>>>> cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [datacatalogs] Potential addition to
>>>>>> http://datacatalogs.org
>>>>>> To: Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jonathon,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just was reading some news from okfn.org and looked at the
>>>>>> catalogs listed for Canada and didn't see the Water and Environmental Hub.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you add us?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Water and Environmental Hub - http://www.waterenvironmentalhub.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png] <http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur and
>>>>>> support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the use of
>>>>>> cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jonathan Gray <jonathan.gray at okfn.org
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fantastic Alex!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll get this added ASAP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Water and Environmental Hub is intended to aggregate data that
>>>>>>>> is freely available for the public to use and distribute without
>>>>>>>> restriction as per opendefinition.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We promote this concept in every conversation with potential data
>>>>>>>> providers. We recognize that some data publishers (i.e. academic groups who
>>>>>>>> are waiting to publish papers, industry working groups, etc.) are asking
>>>>>>>> for closed or semi-closed data sharing to which we continue to debate as to
>>>>>>>> whether we should be offering this service and whether it will ultimately
>>>>>>>> promote open data sharing in the long term.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We recognize that open data is what will ultimately make our
>>>>>>>> project a success in the long term.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding our site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png] <http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur and
>>>>>>>> support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the use of
>>>>>>>> cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Gray <
>>>>>>>> jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes sure I'll add it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But just before I do so, could you confirm that the data on the
>>>>>>>>> site is intended to be open as in opendefinition.org - i.e.
>>>>>>>>> freely available for the public to use and distribute without restriction?
>>>>>>>>> I understand that you have to check details on wording of terms of use with
>>>>>>>>> your legal department, but I just want to confirm (in writing) that the
>>>>>>>>> intention of the site is that the data can be reused by anyone for any
>>>>>>>>> purpose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DataCatalogs.org is for *open* data, not just data which is
>>>>>>>>> publicly available online.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Alex Joseph <alex.joseph at cybera.ca
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathon,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Although we still wait on legal advice re updating our terms of
>>>>>>>>>> service language, we did remove that line you identified.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As well, we have added a feature that allows users who upload
>>>>>>>>>> data to "indicate a license" such that each dataset can have a license
>>>>>>>>>> attached to it if applicable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We were back on the http://datacatalogs.org/ site last week in
>>>>>>>>>> the lead up to the Open Data Day and it would be great to have our website (
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca) added to the list of data
>>>>>>>>>> catalogs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you add our website?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png] <http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur and
>>>>>>>>>> support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the use of
>>>>>>>>>> cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Alex Joseph <
>>>>>>>>>> alex.joseph at cybera.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathon,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good catch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That bullet I think was initially intended not to refer to the
>>>>>>>>>>> datasets but to the WEHUB content...but it does sound very harsh doesn't it
>>>>>>>>>>> and not in accordance with our project...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It likely gets removed shortly or clarified with new legal
>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jonathan Gray <
>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> After reading this, I don't understand how your terms of use
>>>>>>>>>>>> can be based on or compliant with OpenDefinition.org if you require users
>>>>>>>>>>>> to ask permission to redistribute your data?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The user agrees not to duplicate, reuse, transmit, upload,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sell or trade the content, information material and services from this
>>>>>>>>>>>> website without prior written permission from WEHUB."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Alex Joseph <
>>>>>>>>>>>> alex.joseph at cybera.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In general, we use the OpenDefinition.org as the base case for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sharing data publicly on our site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As noted in the last email, we are revamping and enhancing our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication of this throughout the site but are waiting to update text
>>>>>>>>>>>>> until we get a response back from our legal department as to the verbage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the time being, we have used this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://waterenvironmentalhub.ca/terms-of-service which has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> elements similar to the OpenDefinition.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *By posting and sharing content with WEHUB, the user retains
>>>>>>>>>>>>> copyright of the original content. You agree to grant WEHUB a perpetual,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> royalty-free, nonexclusive, irrevocable license to use, modify, reproduce,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adapt, edit, perform analysis on, publish, display and distribute the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted content. WEHUB is not obligated to treat such content as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential or proprietary.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that suffices for the time being.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png]<http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Jonathan Gray <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great! Just to confirm, does this license comply with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenDefinition.org? Do you have a link to the text?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Alex Joseph <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alex.joseph at cybera.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great question.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At this early stage, we have employed a number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undergraduate geomatic students to either connect data via web services or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload observation datasets to which we are fairly confident that each was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked for an adequate distribution license. However, we are now engaged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a review of that to ensure that they indeed are licensed appropriately.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This process will be emphasized in our next wave of students starting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As well, we are in the process of modifying our user upload
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page to include the terms and conditions that requires users to agree that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they comply with the license that applies to each dataset they intend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon uploading and sharing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for adding our project to the data catalog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png]<http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan Gray <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.gray at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent - thanks Alex!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under what license or what terms is this data released?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Alex Joseph <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alex.joseph at cybera.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found your project via the civicaccess.ca discussion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may want to add http://www.waterenvironmentalhub.cato your list of open data catalogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Water and Environmental Hub (WEHUB) project is an open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source web platform that aggregates, federates, and connects water data and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information with users looking to download, analyze, model and interpret
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water and environmental-based information. By combining water expertise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an open web development approach and an entrepreneurial foundation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project will spur economic diversification and benefit both public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users and the private sector by improving the access to water data and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tools for academia, government, industry, NGOs and the general public.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In partnership with other open data repositories around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water, the WEHUB is developing a web-based platform that will not only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a water-related data catalogue, but deliver an innovative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggregator service that is linked with a unified output service (API). This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will allow organizations and users to develop customized applications on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top of the WEHUB web platform and gain access to all of the WEHUB's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggregated data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We currently have 2000+ observation datasets, 100+ base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layers from Western Canada, and 10+ web services related to water and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment mainly from North America but some global datasets available
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for search, discovery, download, and also available through our RESTful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> API. Current data available includes these sources: Environment Canada,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Natural Resources Canada, USGS, various provincial and state governments,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various cities/municipalities in Canada/US, various industry including
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM's Creekwatch, and various NGOs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Joseph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M.E.Des., MBA, EP, LEED AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director - Water and Environmental Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cybera Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone Number (403) 826-3915
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax Number (403) 210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: WEHUB_logo_200.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.waterenvironmentalhub.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.letthedataflow.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.apps4water.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.cybera.ca/project/water-and-environmental-hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_twitter.png]<http://twitter.com/#%21/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: linkedin1-small.gif]<http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Water-Environmental-Hub-3687237>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_facebook.png]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Water-and-Environmental-Hub/145981268796826>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_youtube.png]<http://www.youtube.com/letthedataflow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: emailfooter_rss.png]<http://letthedataflow.ca/rss.xml>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cybera is a not-for-profit organization that works to spur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and support innovation, for the economic benefit of Alberta, through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use of cyberinfrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3608 - 33 Street NW || Calgary, AB || T2L 2A6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main Phone: 403-210-5333 || Main Fax: 403-210-5339
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data-catalogs mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data-catalogs at lists.okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/data-catalogs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Laura Newman
>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>>> Skype: lauranewmanonskype
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura Newman
>>> Community Coordinator
>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>> http://okfn.org/
>>> Skype: lauranewmanonskype
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Laura Newman
> Community Coordinator
> Open Knowledge Foundation
> http://okfn.org/
> Skype: lauranewmanonskype
>
--
Laura Newman
Community Coordinator
Open Knowledge Foundation
http://okfn.org/
Skype: lauranewmanonskype
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