[datacatalogs] datacatalogs.org

Fri Jun 15 14:50:48 UTC 2012

Great idea Antti. Another thing I'd *really* like to see added based
on looking at the data is the *date* the datacatalog began (then we
could do a nice timeline using ReclineJS!).

Rufus

PS: scripts and raw data for the map

http://datahub.io/dataset/datacatalogs-org
https://github.com/datasets/datacatalogs.org

In a perfect world we would run off http://datacatalogs.org/api but a)
we need to geocode the data (we could put this back into datacatalogs
of course ) b) putting this as a dataset in the datahub allows us to
do lots of nice filtering and querying including spatial queries
(coming soon ...)

On 15 June 2012 15:34, Antti Jogi Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Based on the datacatalogs.org I counted so far 47 local or regional data
> catalogs in Europe (108 in whole world). I intend to do a very short web
> survey for the edministrators of the catalogs and therefore I would need the
> emails / points of contact.
>
> Probably those can be found from the catalogue sites, but if you alredy know
> some names, please help me filling in this table:
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au5B9VrRkisPdG9xa2kxanctWko4b2liUUlrdzUxMVE#gid=1
>
> Also if you have some favourite questions that you would like to ask from
> the administrators feel free to suggest me. I will also direct them to check
> the information in the datacatalogs.org and ask them to update it.
>
> BR, Jogi
>
>
> On 15 June 2012 17:17, Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks Daniel for letting me know about the data-catalogs email -list, I
>> subscribed now.
>>
>> My question is that how the updating of information to the
>> Datacatalogs.org actually happend? Does someone (who?) need to approve the
>> changes?
>>
>> I recognized that the wikilike interface is open for anyone to TRY TO DO
>> changes even without signing in. I tried to update the text anonymously
>> here: http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/edit/helsinki_finland
>>
>> New value: Helsinki Region Infoshare -datacatalogue offers open data from
>> the Greater Helsinki region in Finland...
>> Old value: Infoshare offers open data from Helsinki, Finland...
>>
>> When I push "Save" it returns me to the Helsinki Region Infoshare page
>> with OLD text. In the history tab there is the revision to my change:
>> http://datacatalogs.org/revision/20379991-7a4c-483b-9f66-8937707dbd89 if I
>> click the timestamp
>> http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/helsinki_finland%402012-06-15T13%3A26%3A31.743652
>> I can see my change, but it is not visible
>>
>> This is highly strange... if there is some sort of approval process or if
>> the update for some other reason takes time it should be told to the users
>> in the interface.
>>
>> Also I would like to add new catalogs, but it seems that my user rights
>> are not high enough. When I go to http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/new I'm
>> asked to sign in (even if I am already signed in), after signing in it leads
>> to my home view, but no links to any add new catalogue place are there. If
>> you trust me enough, could you increase my user rights (
>> http://datacatalogs.org/user/apoikola ) ?
>>
>> BR, Antti Poikola
>>
>>
>> On 15.6.2012 15:15, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> thanks for bringing this important discussion up again. I remember we
>>> talked about including the great features (map, facetted browsing, etc) from
>>> CTIC catalogue to datacatalogs.org a wile ago. However I do not remember the
>>> exact outcome or any reason why we never actually started working on this.
>>>
>>> @Martin and others, would you be up for a quick Skype session on this to
>>> explore what needs to be done to harmonize the two initiatives and add
>>> important features to datacatalogs.org ? If so, please suggest a time&
>>>  date. My Skype ID is ddie22.
>>>
>>>
>>> For any issues like the ones with the tags, etc I strongly recommend
>>> discussing them on data-catalogs at lists.okfn.org now in CC.
>>>
>>> All best
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 Jun 2012, at 13:30, Antti Jogi Poikola wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Martin and others,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the clarification, I found it very convenient that from the
>>>> CTIC catalogue it was easy to download the whole data in a tab-separated
>>>> list, my API -skills are not good enough that I could get the whole data out
>>>> from the datacatalogs.org (I managed to do this
>>>> http://datacatalogs.org/api/rest/dataset , but it is not very informative).
>>>>
>>>> Could these two initiatives be maybe more tightly co-operating? It seems
>>>> that the update pace is faster for datacatalogs.org and because of the clear
>>>> domain it seems more official to me. The citic catalog on the other hand has
>>>> in my opinion better search interface and other nice features, like the
>>>> submission form.
>>>>
>>>> I found some mistakes regarding Finland and as a contributor I'm
>>>> wondering what is the ONE place where I should give the updated information?
>>>>
>>>> BR: Antti "Jogi" Poikola
>>>>
>>>> PS: earlier Josema and I tried modifying the tags in the
>>>> datacatalogs.org with no success... I noted that any other changes that I
>>>> make to the wiki-like interface are not persistent either. Is there some
>>>> sort of approval mechanism or user rights thing? For example the link in
>>>> tirol catalogue is missing http:// --
>>>> http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/tirol-data
>>>>
>>>> On 14 June 2012 14:12, Martin Alvarez<martin.alvarez at fundacionctic.org>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>>
>>>> CTIC launched (with Josema onboard) this faceted browser a couple years
>>>> ago. All the entries of this catalog have been submitted by the community
>>>> (or people related to the initiative itself) through the form you mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> This is not only a browser. All the information (description, license,
>>>> homepage, TimBL stars, location, etc) is stored in a triplestore, and it can
>>>> be queried using a SPARQL endpoint. Associated to each entry, there is
>>>> important information about the coverage of the catalog: place name,
>>>> coordinates, administrative level (country, region, city, supranational),
>>>> and parent country (if available).
>>>>
>>>> This application is easy to implement. We proposed it as a visualization
>>>> for datacatalogs.org. The issue I foresee is the lack of geographic
>>>> information to set the markers on the map.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> On 14/06/2012, at 12:08, Antti Jogi Poikola<antti.poikola at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Josema, Daniel and others,
>>>>>
>>>>> I add to this discussion the opendata at fundacionctic.org (I don't know
>>>>> who will reply), CTIC has nice faceted browser with 158 catalogs and simple
>>>>> "submit new" -form.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/
>>>>>
>>>>> I discovered this when I started to wonder what the mysterious tag ctic
>>>>> means in the  http://datacatalogs.org/dataset?tags=ctic .. it seems that
>>>>> CTIC has used 111 (out of 241) datacatalogue.org entries and found some new
>>>>> ones and ended up to 158 catalogues.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR, Antti "Jogi" Poikola
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 June 2012 12:58, Josema Alonso<me at josema.net>  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe what Daniel said is right. What I noticed on datacatalogs is
>>>>> that there are several that are not properly tagged, so if you filter by
>>>>> "level.local" you'll still be missing several city level catalogs in there.
>>>>> I tried to edit a few of them to add that tag, seemed to work, but they are
>>>>> not showing up when I filter again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel, do you know if there's any sort of moderation/approval process
>>>>> behind the scenes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josema.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El 14/06/2012, a las 11:35, Daniel Dietrich escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the GDoc is outdated. The page
>>>>>> http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ is no longer linked from the
>>>>>> navigation either. The relevant page (linked from navigation) is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this refers to http://datacatalogs.org/ which is the most update
>>>>>> version we have - I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 Jun 2012, at 11:18, Antti Jogi Poikola wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you are all listed as curators of the datacatalogs.org -site. I
>>>>>>> wonder how comprehensive the listing is at the moment and are there many new
>>>>>>> catalogues missing from the listings?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also approached with the same question to the contributors to the
>>>>>>> Google Doc data catalogue listing [2] which is publicly visible at the
>>>>>>> Opengovernmentdata.org -site [3].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently I am drafting a EPSI platform topic -report [4] about the
>>>>>>> open data in the cities and therefore the city- and regional data catalogues
>>>>>>> are in my interest right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Antti Poikola (Finland)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://datacatalogs.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams8fpz2_77XdG8tZ2ZrUGoybnlpU0NGTjhiUEpQdVE&authkey=CLDY7sYM&authkey=CLDY7sYM#gid=0
>>>>>>> [3] http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [4] http://epsiplatform.eu/topicreports
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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