[datacatalogs] datacatalogs.org

Fri Jun 15 14:34:38 UTC 2012

Hi again,

Based on the datacatalogs.org I counted so far 47 local or regional data
catalogs in Europe (108 in whole world). I intend to do a very short web
survey for the edministrators of the catalogs and therefore I would need
the emails / points of contact.

Probably those can be found from the catalogue sites, but if you alredy
know some names, please help me filling in this table:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au5B9VrRkisPdG9xa2kxanctWko4b2liUUlrdzUxMVE#gid=1

Also if you have some favourite questions that you would like to ask from
the administrators feel free to suggest me. I will also direct them to
check the information in the datacatalogs.org and ask them to update it.

BR, Jogi

On 15 June 2012 17:17, Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks Daniel for letting me know about the data-catalogs email -list, I
> subscribed now.
>
> My question is that how the updating of information to the
> Datacatalogs.org actually happend? Does someone (who?) need to approve the
> changes?
>
> I recognized that the wikilike interface is open for anyone to TRY TO DO
> changes even without signing in. I tried to update the text anonymously
> here: http://datacatalogs.org/**catalog/edit/helsinki_finland<http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/edit/helsinki_finland>
>
> New value: Helsinki Region Infoshare -datacatalogue offers open data from
> the Greater Helsinki region in Finland...
> Old value: Infoshare offers open data from Helsinki, Finland...
>
> When I push "Save" it returns me to the Helsinki Region Infoshare page
> with OLD text. In the history tab there is the revision to my change:
> http://datacatalogs.org/**revision/20379991-7a4c-483b-**9f66-8937707dbd89<http://datacatalogs.org/revision/20379991-7a4c-483b-9f66-8937707dbd89>if I click the timestamp
> http://datacatalogs.org/**catalog/helsinki_finland%**
> 402012-06-15T13%3A26%3A31.**743652<http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/helsinki_finland%402012-06-15T13%3A26%3A31.743652>I can see my change, but it is not visible
>
> This is highly strange... if there is some sort of approval process or if
> the update for some other reason takes time it should be told to the users
> in the interface.
>
> Also I would like to add new catalogs, but it seems that my user rights
> are not high enough. When I go to http://datacatalogs.org/**catalog/new<http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/new>I'm asked to sign in (even if I am already signed in), after signing in it
> leads to my home view, but no links to any add new catalogue place are
> there. If you trust me enough, could you increase my user rights (
> http://datacatalogs.org/user/**apoikola<http://datacatalogs.org/user/apoikola>) ?
>
> BR, Antti Poikola
>
>
> On 15.6.2012 15:15, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> thanks for bringing this important discussion up again. I remember we
>> talked about including the great features (map, facetted browsing, etc)
>> from CTIC catalogue to datacatalogs.org a wile ago. However I do not
>> remember the exact outcome or any reason why we never actually started
>> working on this.
>>
>> @Martin and others, would you be up for a quick Skype session on this to
>> explore what needs to be done to harmonize the two initiatives and add
>> important features to datacatalogs.org ? If so, please suggest a time&
>>  date. My Skype ID is ddie22.
>>
>>
>> For any issues like the ones with the tags, etc I strongly recommend
>> discussing them on data-catalogs at lists.okfn.org now in CC.
>>
>> All best
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 14 Jun 2012, at 13:30, Antti Jogi Poikola wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Martin and others,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification, I found it very convenient that from the
>>> CTIC catalogue it was easy to download the whole data in a tab-separated
>>> list, my API -skills are not good enough that I could get the whole data
>>> out from the datacatalogs.org (I managed to do this
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/api/**rest/dataset<http://datacatalogs.org/api/rest/dataset>, but it is not very informative).
>>>
>>> Could these two initiatives be maybe more tightly co-operating? It seems
>>> that the update pace is faster for datacatalogs.org and because of the
>>> clear domain it seems more official to me. The citic catalog on the other
>>> hand has in my opinion better search interface and other nice features,
>>> like the submission form.
>>>
>>> I found some mistakes regarding Finland and as a contributor I'm
>>> wondering what is the ONE place where I should give the updated information?
>>>
>>> BR: Antti "Jogi" Poikola
>>>
>>> PS: earlier Josema and I tried modifying the tags in the
>>> datacatalogs.org with no success... I noted that any other changes that
>>> I make to the wiki-like interface are not persistent either. Is there some
>>> sort of approval mechanism or user rights thing? For example the link in
>>> tirol catalogue is missing http:// --
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/**catalog/tirol-data<http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/tirol-data>
>>>
>>> On 14 June 2012 14:12, Martin Alvarez<martin.alvarez@**fundacionctic.org<martin.alvarez at fundacionctic.org>>
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi Antti,
>>>
>>> CTIC launched (with Josema onboard) this faceted browser a couple years
>>> ago. All the entries of this catalog have been submitted by the community
>>> (or people related to the initiative itself) through the form you mentioned.
>>>
>>> This is not only a browser. All the information (description, license,
>>> homepage, TimBL stars, location, etc) is stored in a triplestore, and it
>>> can be queried using a SPARQL endpoint. Associated to each entry, there is
>>> important information about the coverage of the catalog: place name,
>>> coordinates, administrative level (country, region, city, supranational),
>>> and parent country (if available).
>>>
>>> This application is easy to implement. We proposed it as a visualization
>>> for datacatalogs.org. The issue I foresee is the lack of geographic
>>> information to set the markers on the map.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 14/06/2012, at 12:08, Antti Jogi Poikola<antti.poikola at gmail.**com<antti.poikola at gmail.com>>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Josema, Daniel and others,
>>>>
>>>> I add to this discussion the opendata at fundacionctic.org (I don't know
>>>> who will reply), CTIC has nice faceted browser with 158 catalogs and simple
>>>> "submit new" -form.
>>>>
>>>> http://datos.fundacionctic.**org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/<http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/>
>>>>
>>>> I discovered this when I started to wonder what the mysterious tag ctic
>>>> means in the  http://datacatalogs.org/**dataset?tags=ctic<http://datacatalogs.org/dataset?tags=ctic>.. it seems that CTIC has used 111 (out of 241)
>>>> datacatalogue.org entries and found some new ones and ended up to 158
>>>> catalogues.
>>>>
>>>> BR, Antti "Jogi" Poikola
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 June 2012 12:58, Josema Alonso<me at josema.net>  wrote:
>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>>
>>>> I believe what Daniel said is right. What I noticed on datacatalogs is
>>>> that there are several that are not properly tagged, so if you filter by
>>>> "level.local" you'll still be missing several city level catalogs in there.
>>>> I tried to edit a few of them to add that tag, seemed to work, but they are
>>>> not showing up when I filter again.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel, do you know if there's any sort of moderation/approval process
>>>> behind the scenes?
>>>>
>>>> Josema.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El 14/06/2012, a las 11:35, Daniel Dietrich escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>>>
>>>>> the GDoc is outdated. The page http://opengovernmentdata.org/**
>>>>> data/catalogues/ <http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/> is
>>>>> no longer linked from the navigation either. The relevant page (linked from
>>>>> navigation) is:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://opengovernmentdata.org/**data/<http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/>
>>>>>
>>>>> this refers to http://datacatalogs.org/ which is the most update
>>>>> version we have - I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Jun 2012, at 11:18, Antti Jogi Poikola wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you are all listed as curators of the datacatalogs.org -site. I
>>>>>> wonder how comprehensive the listing is at the moment and are there many
>>>>>> new catalogues missing from the listings?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also approached with the same question to the contributors to the
>>>>>> Google Doc data catalogue listing [2] which is publicly visible at the
>>>>>> Opengovernmentdata.org -site [3].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently I am drafting a EPSI platform topic -report [4] about the
>>>>>> open data in the cities and therefore the city- and regional data
>>>>>> catalogues are in my interest right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Antti Poikola (Finland)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://datacatalogs.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2] https://docs.google.com/**spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams8fpz2_**
>>>>>> 77XdG8tZ2ZrUGoybnlpU0NGTjhiUEp**QdVE&authkey=CLDY7sYM&authkey=**
>>>>>> CLDY7sYM#gid=0<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams8fpz2_77XdG8tZ2ZrUGoybnlpU0NGTjhiUEpQdVE&authkey=CLDY7sYM&authkey=CLDY7sYM#gid=0>
>>>>>> [3] http://opengovernmentdata.org/**data/catalogues/<http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [4] http://epsiplatform.eu/**topicreports<http://epsiplatform.eu/topicreports>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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