[datacatalogs] datacatalogs.org

Daniel Dietrich daniel.dietrich at okfn.org
Sat Jun 23 17:53:22 UTC 2012 

Hi Rufus,

I am sorry for not replying earlier. 

On 15 Jun 2012, at 16:47, Rufus Pollock wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> @Antti and Daniel: thanks for re-initiating this thread!
> 
> A relevant update is that Sean Hammond and I created a full map for
> the data catalogs site at the hack day in Berlin a week ago but have
> been waiting to put it up somewhere appropriate:
> 
> <http://reclinejs.com/app/?url=http://datahub.io/api/data/39317285-d0e8-4dad-9e5d-f064100132c9&backend=elasticsearch&currentView=map#explorer>


This is pretty cool! I have a couple of questions:

- I see there is Latitude / Longitude fields and GeoJSON field. I assume this reads the City or Country name and geocodes it, right? I assume the lat log fields are empty in most cases, right?

- it says "results found 240" wile datacatalogs shows "248 registered data catalogs available." is it showing all catalogs in datacatalogs? how to find out which ones are missing?

- I would like to change the details view shown once you klick on a item on the map:

	* its a bit messy, so I suggest to take off some information like: site_id, id, metadata_created, metadata_modified, index_id, revision_id, entity_type, indexed_ts, etc
	* make the title bigger at the top
	* make the URL klickable
	* maybe add klickable reference to the related datacatalogs entry

- the sections "filter" and "fields" are not very intuitive as they are. How could we improve here? or just hide for now? (as when you kick on the related buttoms on the top)

- I would love to see the "timeline"- function working! I guess its just a metter of adding related metadata (start date / date launched) to the datacatalogs entries? what would be the field to add this kind of information?

I would love to spend some time improving the metadata to make this possible and then add to home and /map/

Best regards
Daniel


> 
> Where to locate (multiple places is possible!)?
> 
> <http://datacatalogs.org> home page
> 
> <http://datacatalogs.org/map/>
> 
> <http://census.opengovernmentdata.org/catalogs/>
> 
> Rufus
> 
> On 15 June 2012 13:15, Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> thanks for bringing this important discussion up again. I remember we talked about including the great features (map, facetted browsing, etc) from CTIC catalogue to datacatalogs.org a wile ago. However I do not remember the exact outcome or any reason why we never actually started working on this.
>> 
>> @Martin and others, would you be up for a quick Skype session on this to explore what needs to be done to harmonize the two initiatives and add important features to datacatalogs.org ? If so, please suggest a time & date. My Skype ID is ddie22.
>> 
>> For any issues like the ones with the tags, etc I strongly recommend discussing them on data-catalogs at lists.okfn.org now in CC.
>> 
>> All best
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Jun 2012, at 13:30, Antti Jogi Poikola wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Martin and others,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the clarification, I found it very convenient that from the CTIC catalogue it was easy to download the whole data in a tab-separated list, my API -skills are not good enough that I could get the whole data out from the datacatalogs.org (I managed to do this http://datacatalogs.org/api/rest/dataset , but it is not very informative).
>>> 
>>> Could these two initiatives be maybe more tightly co-operating? It seems that the update pace is faster for datacatalogs.org and because of the clear domain it seems more official to me. The citic catalog on the other hand has in my opinion better search interface and other nice features, like the submission form.
>>> 
>>> I found some mistakes regarding Finland and as a contributor I'm wondering what is the ONE place where I should give the updated information?
>>> 
>>> BR: Antti "Jogi" Poikola
>>> 
>>> PS: earlier Josema and I tried modifying the tags in the datacatalogs.org with no success... I noted that any other changes that I make to the wiki-like interface are not persistent either. Is there some sort of approval mechanism or user rights thing? For example the link in tirol catalogue is missing http:// --
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/catalog/tirol-data
>>> 
>>> On 14 June 2012 14:12, Martin Alvarez <martin.alvarez at fundacionctic.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Antti,
>>> 
>>> CTIC launched (with Josema onboard) this faceted browser a couple years ago. All the entries of this catalog have been submitted by the community (or people related to the initiative itself) through the form you mentioned.
>>> 
>>> This is not only a browser. All the information (description, license, homepage, TimBL stars, location, etc) is stored in a triplestore, and it can be queried using a SPARQL endpoint. Associated to each entry, there is important information about the coverage of the catalog: place name, coordinates, administrative level (country, region, city, supranational), and parent country (if available).
>>> 
>>> This application is easy to implement. We proposed it as a visualization for datacatalogs.org. The issue I foresee is the lack of geographic information to set the markers on the map.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> On 14/06/2012, at 12:08, Antti Jogi Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Josema, Daniel and others,
>>>> 
>>>> I add to this discussion the opendata at fundacionctic.org (I don't know who will reply), CTIC has nice faceted browser with 158 catalogs and simple "submit new" -form.
>>>> 
>>>> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/
>>>> 
>>>> I discovered this when I started to wonder what the mysterious tag ctic means in the  http://datacatalogs.org/dataset?tags=ctic .. it seems that CTIC has used 111 (out of 241) datacatalogue.org entries and found some new ones and ended up to 158 catalogues.
>>>> 
>>>> BR, Antti "Jogi" Poikola
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 14 June 2012 12:58, Josema Alonso <me at josema.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>> 
>>>> I believe what Daniel said is right. What I noticed on datacatalogs is that there are several that are not properly tagged, so if you filter by "level.local" you'll still be missing several city level catalogs in there. I tried to edit a few of them to add that tag, seemed to work, but they are not showing up when I filter again.
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel, do you know if there's any sort of moderation/approval process behind the scenes?
>>>> 
>>>> Josema.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> El 14/06/2012, a las 11:35, Daniel Dietrich escribió:
>>>>> Hi Antti,
>>>>> 
>>>>> the GDoc is outdated. The page http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ is no longer linked from the navigation either. The relevant page (linked from navigation) is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/
>>>>> 
>>>>> this refers to http://datacatalogs.org/ which is the most update version we have - I think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Jun 2012, at 11:18, Antti Jogi Poikola wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you are all listed as curators of the datacatalogs.org -site. I wonder how comprehensive the listing is at the moment and are there many new catalogues missing from the listings?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also approached with the same question to the contributors to the Google Doc data catalogue listing [2] which is publicly visible at the Opengovernmentdata.org -site [3].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Currently I am drafting a EPSI platform topic -report [4] about the open data in the cities and therefore the city- and regional data catalogues are in my interest right now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Antti Poikola (Finland)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://datacatalogs.org/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams8fpz2_77XdG8tZ2ZrUGoybnlpU0NGTjhiUEpQdVE&authkey=CLDY7sYM&authkey=CLDY7sYM#gid=0
>>>>>> [3] http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [4] http://epsiplatform.eu/topicreports
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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