[ddj] 5811 datasets in beta EU data portal

[Michael Bauer]

Can we get the metadata out and do a statistic of this. This would mean
that the majority of the data in the open data portal are not open (as in
the opendefinition.org)

Michael

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou wrote:
> Like on most data catalogs, each dataset is released under a specific licence.
> In the EU Commission's case, there are three different ones used :
> cc-by for about 100 datasets, a few dozens under Europa Legal Notice,
> which seems complex but opendata-compatible, and the whole others,
> meaning more than 95%, are released under the Eurostat
> Copyright/Licence Policy
> <http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page/portal/about_eurostat/policies/copyright_licence_policy>
> This last one explicitly says that commercial reuse is possible except
> in a broad variety of situations which the user obviously has to
> identify for himself : this is the exact opposite of an opendata
> licence that would get rid of any legal uncertainty that could put the
> reuser at risk as defined in the opendefinition.
> 
> Benjamin
> 
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Ahmed ElAmin <elamin.ahmed at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't know if you are correct Benjamin. Where did you get the info
> > that it is for non-commercial use? Even if it says that, media can
> > analyse and publish the data (eg see UK gov transparency data
> > publishing, which is what this exercise by the Commission is based
> > on). Non-commercial use normally means companies cannot package and
> > resell the data. That's my understanding. I can always contact the
> > Commission to clarify if people are still unsure. Here is what the
> > site says (though it is badly put):
> >
> > 'This portal is about transparency, open government and innovation.
> > The European Commission Data Portal provides access to open public
> > data from the European Commission. It also provides access to data of
> > other Union institutions, bodies, offices and agencies at their
> > request. The published data can be downloaded by everyone interested
> > to facilitate reuse, linking and the creation of innovative services.
> > Moreover, this Data Portal promotes and builds literacy around
> > Europe’s data. The data publishers, application developers and the
> > general public can also use new functionalities enabled by the
> > semantic technologies.'
> >
> > On 10 January 2013 15:23, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou <b.ooghe at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> That is the issue... Does a media reusing data make a commercial
> >> reuse? No one knows, and everyone is in a high legal incertainty
> >> situation...
> >>
> >> Benjamin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Robin Linderborg
> >> <robin.linderborg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Just of curiosity, where does one draw the line with non-commercial data?
> >>> Surely, it must be allowed to reference the results, although not in great
> >>> detail.
> >>>
> >>> /Robin Linderborg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/10 Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou <b.ooghe at gmail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Warning : most of this data can not be used by medias as it is
> >>>> released under a non-commercial licence, which is quite surprising
> >>>> coming from the european commission repeating in loop the strong
> >>>> interest of OpenData for economic purposes...
> >>>>
> >>>> Benjamin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Ahmed ElAmin <elamin.ahmed at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Very interesting and sometimes bizzare kind of microdata begin put
> >>>> > online as part of a Commission transparency exercise. Here is a sample
> >>>> > of what can be found begging for infographic kind of treatment.
> >>>> > http://open-data.europa.eu/open-data/data/
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >     Psychiatric care beds in hospitals was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Total length of railway lines was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Public electronic procurement systems was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Enterprises using Internet for interaction with public authorities
> >>>> > (NACE Rev. 1.1) was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Public services - Individuals was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Enterprises using the Internet for submitting a proposal in a
> >>>> > public electronic tender system to public authorities was updated on
> >>>> > 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Population connected to independent wastewater collecting systems:
> >>>> > with treatment was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Gross value added - NACE Rev.1: L-P - current prices was updated
> >>>> > on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Water abstracted for public water supply was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >     Compensation of employees by NACE Rev.1 was updated on 09/01/13.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Cheers
> >>>> > Ahmed
> >>>> >
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