[ddj] 5811 datasets in beta EU data portal

Fri Jan 11 09:34:31 UTC 2013

I did it, this is where the figures I'm providing come from : I
crawled the catalogue, since the CKAN API doesn't seen accessible to
do the appropriate query.
I have the exact results at home but they are approximately what I
gave yesterday : 100 CC-BY, 70 EU Legal notice, 5640 Eurostat

Benjamin

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org> wrote:
> Can we get the metadata out and do a statistic of this. This would mean
> that the majority of the data in the open data portal are not open (as in
> the opendefinition.org)
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 09:29:28PM +0100, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou wrote:
>> Like on most data catalogs, each dataset is released under a specific licence.
>> In the EU Commission's case, there are three different ones used :
>> cc-by for about 100 datasets, a few dozens under Europa Legal Notice,
>> which seems complex but opendata-compatible, and the whole others,
>> meaning more than 95%, are released under the Eurostat
>> Copyright/Licence Policy
>> <http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/portal/page/portal/about_eurostat/policies/copyright_licence_policy>
>> This last one explicitly says that commercial reuse is possible except
>> in a broad variety of situations which the user obviously has to
>> identify for himself : this is the exact opposite of an opendata
>> licence that would get rid of any legal uncertainty that could put the
>> reuser at risk as defined in the opendefinition.
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Ahmed ElAmin <elamin.ahmed at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I don't know if you are correct Benjamin. Where did you get the info
>> > that it is for non-commercial use? Even if it says that, media can
>> > analyse and publish the data (eg see UK gov transparency data
>> > publishing, which is what this exercise by the Commission is based
>> > on). Non-commercial use normally means companies cannot package and
>> > resell the data. That's my understanding. I can always contact the
>> > Commission to clarify if people are still unsure. Here is what the
>> > site says (though it is badly put):
>> >
>> > 'This portal is about transparency, open government and innovation.
>> > The European Commission Data Portal provides access to open public
>> > data from the European Commission. It also provides access to data of
>> > other Union institutions, bodies, offices and agencies at their
>> > request. The published data can be downloaded by everyone interested
>> > to facilitate reuse, linking and the creation of innovative services.
>> > Moreover, this Data Portal promotes and builds literacy around
>> > Europe’s data. The data publishers, application developers and the
>> > general public can also use new functionalities enabled by the
>> > semantic technologies.'
>> >
>> > On 10 January 2013 15:23, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou <b.ooghe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> That is the issue... Does a media reusing data make a commercial
>> >> reuse? No one knows, and everyone is in a high legal incertainty
>> >> situation...
>> >>
>> >> Benjamin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Robin Linderborg
>> >> <robin.linderborg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Just of curiosity, where does one draw the line with non-commercial data?
>> >>> Surely, it must be allowed to reference the results, although not in great
>> >>> detail.
>> >>>
>> >>> /Robin Linderborg
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2013/1/10 Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou <b.ooghe at gmail.com>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning : most of this data can not be used by medias as it is
>> >>>> released under a non-commercial licence, which is quite surprising
>> >>>> coming from the european commission repeating in loop the strong
>> >>>> interest of OpenData for economic purposes...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Benjamin
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Ahmed ElAmin <elamin.ahmed at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> > Very interesting and sometimes bizzare kind of microdata begin put
>> >>>> > online as part of a Commission transparency exercise. Here is a sample
>> >>>> > of what can be found begging for infographic kind of treatment.
>> >>>> > http://open-data.europa.eu/open-data/data/
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >     Psychiatric care beds in hospitals was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Total length of railway lines was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Public electronic procurement systems was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Enterprises using Internet for interaction with public authorities
>> >>>> > (NACE Rev. 1.1) was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Public services - Individuals was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Enterprises using the Internet for submitting a proposal in a
>> >>>> > public electronic tender system to public authorities was updated on
>> >>>> > 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Population connected to independent wastewater collecting systems:
>> >>>> > with treatment was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Gross value added - NACE Rev.1: L-P - current prices was updated
>> >>>> > on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Water abstracted for public water supply was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >     Compensation of employees by NACE Rev.1 was updated on 09/01/13.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Cheers
>> >>>> > Ahmed
>> >>>> >
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