[ddj] Mapping illegal crops in the borderlands of Belarus, Poland and Ukraine

Thu Oct 2 15:45:10 UTC 2014

Hi Fiona,

And thanks for the good points. It is likely that a study like that may 
include different angles, such as:

- analysys of the official data
- meta-analysis of the source, e.g. why they publish this data, what 
they may have hidden and why
- crowd-sourcing the plantations to compare the data, which is rather 
tricky considered the nature of the subject :)

Something like that... And yes, we should be careful. :)

Best wishes,
Alexey.

> Hello
>
> Just wanted to add that data from the police may have all sorts of 
> hidden biases. Their data tells you about the crops they find and 
> report. There may be many places where there are crops that the police 
> don’t know about or don’t find. There may be other places where the 
> police know about it but it doesn’t make it onto the official 
> recording. And of course different countries might have biases in 
> different regions and to different extents. So increased number of 
> reports in a particular area doesn’t necessarily mean more crops being 
> grown. It might be a crackdown by the police in that area.
>
> I just mention this because I have been working with illegal ivory 
> seizures and these have the same biases
>
> So you may need to be careful about how you interpret the results.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> Fiona
>
> *Dr Fiona M. Underwood
> *Independent Statistical Consultant
>
> W: www.fmunderwood.com
> S: f.m.underwood
>
> *From:*data-driven-journalism 
> [mailto:data-driven-journalism-bounces at lists.okfn.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Stanislaw M.Stanuch
> *Sent:* 01 October 2014 16:47
> *To:* List about Data Driven Journalism and Open Data in Journalism.
> *Subject:* Re: [ddj] Mapping illegal crops in the borderlands of 
> Belarus, Poland and Ukraine
>
> Alexey,
>
> I just as polish Police for data, so stay tuned.
>
> As I know, it may take some time :-)
>
> Best,
>
> Staś
>
> 2014-10-01 10:23 GMT+02:00 alexey medvetsky <am at opendata.by 
> <mailto:am at opendata.by>>:
>
>     Hi Stas,
>
>     Yes. If it's possible to get the machine-readable data from the
>     police then this would be enough:
>     - Date,
>     - Name of the place (ideally geolocated),
>     - Type of crops,
>     - Size of the plantation
>
>     These are the fields I used to make the map. Otherwise simple text
>     reports will probably do fine in case they are standardized.
>
>     Unfortunately I don't have the data for Ukraine. But as my data
>     suggest, most Belarusian poppy crops are in the Grodno border
>     region, so I am very curious to see the situation around Bialystok.
>
>
>     Best,
>     Alexey.
>
>         Hi Alexy,
>
>         What kind of data you look for? Place, type(cannabis or poppy
>         crops), date?
>
>         Maybe you can post what kind of data you have from Belarusian
>         & Ukrainien Police, so I can ask for the same from Polish Police.
>
>         Staś Stanuch
>
>         2014-09-27 11:34 GMT+02:00 alexey medvetsky <am at opendata.by
>         <mailto:am at opendata.by>>:
>
>             Hello list members,
>
>             I am wondering if there's anyone from Poland and Ukraine
>             on this list who might help with the data on illegal
>             cannabis and poppy crops.
>
>             Here is the data I collected from the Belarusian police
>             for the last 4 years:
>             https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10574235/odata/samosad.html.
>
>             Red squares mean poppy crops, green is cannabis. The
>             interesting thing is that poppy crops tend to be found
>             (and destroyed) closer to the Western border of Belarus,
>             i.e. closer to Poland.
>
>             Have you seen any data from the Polish police on that?
>             Same question goes for the Southern border and to the
>             Ukranian colleagues: is there any data available?
>
>
>             Thanks,
>             Alexey Medvetsky.
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