[ECODP-dev] Review of website

Thu Aug 22 07:11:34 UTC 2013

Glen Good morning,

The more detailed something the better for the outcome.

First I send you to have a view on the process of translation in a document
attached to this mail. Just for an overview.

In the last time you send us the document Translations_to_send_10F.xls
For me it seemed good the way the information was presented. We could track
down various elements. And off course if we have in general some conflict
either from our side or yours, we can track down even more with a little
mailing.

Anyway, based on this file, it was relatevely easy.
One thing that was not easy with this file, is the fact that it does not
keep the original order of Drupal as the translations are shown. But that
is trivial in the end.

Regards
Dimitrios

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM, CAMPBELL Glen (OP) <
Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu> wrote:

>  Thanks Darwin. I was frightened you might say that. I have a vague
> memory of Transifex terms in English, but the task will be harder to find
> things in the translated language (!) but I'll stay positive and hope there
> aren't many problems. I don’t think there should be. ****
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> Dimitrios, Bert, can you say anything? Would you happy to receive the
> document I sent from DGT which gives the url and the items needing to be
> changed from X to Y?****
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> Please let me know as I need to formulate my request to out translation
> service asap. ****
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> By the way, are you still expecting feedback and new texts for 30 August
> or can that date be shifted back at all?****
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> Thanks again****
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> Glen****
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> *From:* Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:28 PM
> *To:* CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
> *Cc:* Dimitrios Mexis (dimitrios.mexis at tenforce.com); Bert Van Nuffelen (
> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com); John Glover (john.glover at okfn.org); HOHN
> Norbert (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); Project list for EC ODP CKAN project
> *Subject:* Re: Review of website****
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> Hi Glen,****
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> Thanks for your email. First of all it would be good to understand the
> purpose of this review - I presume this is a review of the content as it
> stands in release 09.00 so that these changes can be incorporated into
> release 01.00? ****
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> I can only speak for what's needed for the CKAN sections of the site - For
> these we import the translations directly from Transifex into the site.
> Therefore we do need either you or the translators to make the edits into
> Transifex please. Transifex has a very capable search facility so it should
> be quite easy to find the term that needs to be edited. ****
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> Assuming that you want these changes to go live with release 01.00 then
> the changes should be made within the new resource file that has been
> created for release 01.00 which is here****
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> https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/ckan-eu-odp/resource/EUODP-1/****
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> This file also includes the new terms for release 01.00 which the
> translators should also be working on now. ****
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> I'm just heading into a meeting so will be unavailable until 14:00 BST but
> please just let me know if you have any questions or would like to discuss
> at all. ****
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> Best,****
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> On 21 August 2013 12:00, CAMPBELL Glen (OP) <
> Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu> wrote:****
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> Hi all,****
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> If possible, I would be very grateful if I could have your feedback today
> so that I can plan for the review to be made in time for Friday 30 August.
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> Thanks in advance,****
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> _____________________________________________
> *From:* CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:58 PM
> *To:* Dimitrios Mexis (dimitrios.mexis at tenforce.com); Bert Van Nuffelen (
> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com); darwin.peltan at okfn.org; John Glover (
> john.glover at okfn.org)****
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> *Cc:* HOHN Norbert (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP)****
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> *Subject:* FW: Review of website****
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> Dear all,****
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> For the review of the ODP website, we need to agree exactly how you want
> the corrections to be sent to you. The format proposed by our translation
> service is that I prepare a document along the lines of the enclosed
> document indicating each url (tab or other) and that the translators will
> insert their corrections as shown. ****
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> Now I realise that the BIG problem will be then for me or you to locate
> the string that they indicate and then correct it via Drupal or Transifex,
> especially if they don't indicate the string as it appears in Transifex for
> example.  It may be in fact that it will be too painful to locate the
> string in Transifex, which makes me wonder whether we can't find a more
> resource-friendly way of doing this. ****
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> Our translation service can check the website but I cannot ask them to go
> back into Transifex and correct the term. ****
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> Can I have your thoughts about this from the perspectives of Drupal and
> Transifex? Is producing a list of all corrections the best for Drupal? Do
> the strings in Transifex really need to be located and corrected or could
> we live with the corrections being made further downstream (manually on the
> website somehow?), which I guess would cause problems for subsequent
> uploads.****
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> Thanks very much in advance, and please think about my sanity in all of
> this,****
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> _____________________________________________
> *From:* LOVSTROM Monica (DGT) [mailto:Monica.LOVSTROM at ec.europa.eu<Monica.LOVSTROM at ec.europa.eu>]
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:16 PM
> *To:* CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
> *Subject:* FW: Review of website****
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> *From:* LOVSTROM Monica (DGT)
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:29 PM
> *To:* CAMPBELL Glen (OP); PORKOLA Paivi (DGT); NORSGAARD Lene (DGT)
> *Cc:* HOHN Norbert (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); ISOARD Olivier (OP);
> DIMITROVA Vladislava (DGT)
> *Subject:* RE: Review of website****
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> Dear Glen,****
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> For this web site check, we don't need a Poetry request – it's actually
> not possible to introduce one – but we would need clear instructions as to
> what exactly to check.****
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> Since you say "most of the test site" needs to be checked, I propose this
> workflow: you prepare a table (Word or Excel) along the lines of the
> enclosed example, where you add the link to every page that need to be
> checked. The translators will then enter their comments, if any (and the
> code of the language that they're checking).****
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> << File: Website check_FR_Georgieva.doc >> ****
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> It will be difficult to reach me on the phone today and tomorrow (and I'm
> off tomorrow afternoon), so we need to keep this discussion via e-mail.***
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> Vladislava, the lead translator, is in copy, and you can also contact her
> if you have questions.****
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> Have a good afternoon!****
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> Monica****
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> *From:* CAMPBELL Glen (OP) [mailto:Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu<Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu>]
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> *Sent:* Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:28 AM
> *To:* LOVSTROM Monica (DGT); PORKOLA Paivi (DGT); NORSGAARD Lene (DGT)
> *Cc:* HOHN Norbert (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); ISOARD Olivier (OP)
> *Subject:* Review of website****
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> Dear colleague,****
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> Thanks again for all your help for delivering the translations into
> Transifex directly. We really are pleased.****
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> I am coming back to you to pick up again on our verbal/email request to
> have the site linguistically checked by DGT colleagues. ****
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> I will give more precise information on this in the next hour. What I can
> say is that the content you translated is now on this test site.****
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> We would need most of the test site checked by June 11, 5pm. Then I would
> have time to work in the evening and on Wednesday (regardless of the
> strike; I'll have to come in) to commit to deadline with our partners. ***
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> I can try to count the material for you, but I reckon that it is not more
> than about 6 pages of A4 for linguistic and contextual checking. ****
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> How should we go about this request in Poetry?****
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> *Publications Office of the European Union*****
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> Dissemination and Reuse Directorate****
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> Common Portal and Open Data Portal Unit
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> 2985 Luxembourg • LUXEMBOURG
> Tel: +352 292944687 • Fax: +352 292942758
> glen.campbell at publications.europa.eu
> http://publications.europa.eu****
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