[ECODP-dev] Translations for vocabulary terms imported into the test catalogue

Tue Jun 18 15:23:49 UTC 2013

Hi Darwin,

After discussion, and taking account of our commitments with all parties, we prefer not to undertake any linguistic revision for this upcoming release.

Thank you very much however for the concern you expressed on the linguistic quality.

Glen

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From: Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:22 PM
To: CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
Cc: ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP); Project list for EC ODP CKAN project; Bert Van Nuffelen; jurgen vannerom
Subject: Re: Translations for vocabulary terms imported into the test catalogue

Hi Glen,

Good to talk to you earlier. Please see comments inline below.

On 17 June 2013 12:30, CAMPBELL Glen (OP) <Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu>> wrote:
OK Darwin.

It was good to talk on the phone.

Let me just formulate a response and a query by email.

The coverage is indeed quite good, above 94% for most. For 8 languages, however we are below 84% (going from 84% for NL, and 78% for GA).

As mentioned, our translation service was not too hot on the idea of checking the website when there are still gaps, and when they know they'll be asked again to check.

1.       Effectively, if we think in specific language terms, I could ask our translation service to check those languages where we have excellent coverage, especially 100%. But don't we need to think about the strings I have sent for Drupal too that they are dealing with now? There is quite a lot content in the pipeline to the site. I would need to know exactly when I can ask them to check things.

Translations of various elements only finished last Thursday.
I think we should treat the translations for the CKAN site and the translations for the Drupal content as separate as they have different workflows for how they get into the site and thus the timelines are different. As previously discussed the deadline for supplying any amends to the translations was last Wednesday which we extended to Friday to give the translators more time.

This deadline was there because in order for the site to launch on the agreed date we need to be packaging up all of our work on the data section, (including the translations) and give it to 10F during the first half of this week.  However from our call earlier it sounds as if the translators haven't been able to review the translations in place and there may be other small content amends you'd like to make.

With this in mind it sounds like we need to give more time for this review to occur but this is a decision for Agnieszka and Jurgen (from Tenforce) who are project managing the overall release. If you would like to go ahead with a content/translation review then please advise them of a date by which the translators could realistically achieve this review and then we can re-plan from there with Tenforce.

Note - We have updated the demo site with the latest translations so the review can start as soon as the translators are available.
http://212.71.25.148/en/data/

Best,

Darwin

From: Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org<mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org>]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:18 PM

To: CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
Cc: ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP); Project list for EC ODP CKAN project
Subject: Re: Translations for vocabulary terms imported into the test catalogue

Hi Glen,

Thanks for improving the translations of the core languages. We'll import the translations as they are and use these for release 09.00. Obviously this means any changes made since Friday won't make it into the release.

Best,

Darwin

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On 14 June 2013 18:02, CAMPBELL Glen (OP) <Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu>> wrote:
Hi Darwin,

This is just to confirm that the remaining terms in Transifex have been translated in the BIG langs: ES, DE, FR, IT and PL.

We hope that it is not too late to take these changes on board. These will clear up the messy bits noted recently.

We will deal with the other languages in due course.

Glen

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From: CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 3:42 PM
To: 'Darwin Peltan'

Cc: ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP); Project list for EC ODP CKAN project
Subject: RE: Translations for vocabulary terms imported into the test catalogue

Hi Darwin,

As I mentioned, our translators were not able to check these terms, as they prefer to look at the whole when complete.

I am however completing the translation of remaining terms on Transifex  for FR, DE, ES, IT and maybe Polish by close of today.

Glen
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From: Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:29 PM
To: CAMPBELL Glen (OP)
Cc: ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP); Project list for EC ODP CKAN project
Subject: Re: Translations for vocabulary terms imported into the test catalogue

Hi Glen,

Thanks for your email. It's correct that I don't need to be involved with any of the translations of the Drupal content. With regards to the CKAN content would they be able to quality check and update transifex by the end of play Friday?

Otherwise I don't think we should go live with partially completed and unreviewed translations so we should consider delaying the launch by a few days to give them the necessary time/

Best,

Darwin

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On 11 June 2013 16:22, CAMPBELL Glen (OP) <Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Glen.CAMPBELL at publications.europa.eu>> wrote:
Hi Darwin,

I will continue with managing these translations.

However, I have been informed by our translation service that they are unable to do the quality check we wanted, nor can they enter any more translated strings into Transifex in time for tomorrow.

For the remaining Drupal content, I will liaise with Olivier who will then send it to TenForce. I believe that you don't need to be involved for this, right?

Thanks in advance,
Glen

Glen Campbell
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From: Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org<mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org>]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

To: CAMPBELL Glen (OP); ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP); Project list for EC ODP CKAN project
Subject: Translations for vocabulary terms imported into the test catalogue

Dear Glen,

The vocabulary terms (Such as dataset status [1]) raised on ticket ODP-226 [2] have now been imported into the test site. Please can you ask the translators to review these in the test site [3].

Note that datasets and resource names will obviously only be updated if the publishers have provided a translation.

Best,

Darwin

[1] https://docs.google.com/a/okfn.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvowqR9BWVWGdDItcUVTSzZTWUUtc0VFUVhQMUVUYkE#gid=0
[2] https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/publications/jira/browse/ODP-226
[3] http://212.71.25.148/en/data/

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