[ECODP-dev] Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers

Thu Jun 20 12:25:45 UTC 2013

Hello Darwin,

I've made a test with DG Empl whose data have been imported via the CKAN API. If I understood well your last e-mail the user within the same entity should be able to see and edit data. So I logged in as EMPL user. The outcome is visible below: the dataset imported via API is not even visible.

Is it abnormal? How the edit can be made then?

Thanks in advance for feedback,
Agnieszka

http://open-data.europa.eu/en/data/publisher/empl

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From: Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:36 PM
To: ISOARD Olivier (OP)
Cc: Bert Van Nuffelen; Project list for EC ODP CKAN project; ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP)
Subject: Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers

Hi,

Thank you for the additional information. If the datasets have been imported via the CKAN API (rather than rdf2ckan) and assigned to a publisher they can be edited by any user who's part of the same publisher. Therefore if you create users within the relevant publishers they will be able to edit the meta-data.

Best,

Darwin

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From: ISOARD Olivier (OP) <Olivier.ISOARD at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Olivier.ISOARD at publications.europa.eu>>
Date: 19 June 2013 10:40
Subject: RE: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers
To: Darwin Peltan <darwin.peltan at okfn.org<mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org>>, Bert Van Nuffelen <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com<mailto:bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>>, Project list for EC ODP CKAN project <ecodp-dev at lists.okfn.org<mailto:ecodp-dev at lists.okfn.org>>
Cc: "ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP)" <Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu>>, "HOHN Norbert (OP)" <Norbert.HOHN at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Norbert.HOHN at publications.europa.eu>>

Hi,

Well….

>  During the prototyping phase, pilot data providers ingested dataset into ODP database located @10F premises. Some using batch mode, others using interactive interface

>  At some point in time (end 2012), that records have been exported from 10F instance and imported into PROD instance for the opening, using special script. Because that special script used the batch mode to re-import the data, all these datasets belong now to "api" user.

The question now is to define how those data providers may come on ODP PROD and update their data sets.

>  For those who published it initially using batch mode, this shouldn't be a problem, they just have to re-submit new version of RDF package

>  For the ones that came initially via interactive interface (web site form), it is another story because even if we create dedicated account for them (which is planned), they will not have access to past published dataset (which belong to "api" because of the migration)

So, here the question debated below: In order to solve the issue for data provider who was using the website interface for publishing during prototyping phase, would it be possible (even by script) to move existing data set from "api" to another account the data provider may access ?

Hope this is clearer.
Olivier

From: Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org<mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:23 AM
To: Bert Van Nuffelen; Project list for EC ODP CKAN project
Cc: ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP)

Subject: Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers

Hi,

From the email thread below it's a bit unclear to me what you'd like to change here. If you can summarise please we can advise.

Best,

Darwin

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On 19 June 2013 08:29, Bert Van Nuffelen <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com<mailto:bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>> wrote:
Hi Olivier,

I forward this question to Darwin. So far I am unaware of an easy
track for doing such kind of changes.
@Darwin, can you take this up for this afternoon?

kind regards,

Bert

2013/6/19 ISOARD Olivier (OP) <Olivier.ISOARD at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Olivier.ISOARD at publications.europa.eu>>:
> Hi,
>
> And what about the possibility from CKAN to change the owner of a dataset? If this is possible, then we can imagine re-dispatching these datasets, initially migrated under "api", to the actual right provider, once we will have created corresponding separated accounts?
>
> Olivier
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bert Van Nuffelen [mailto:bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com<mailto:bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:25 AM
> To: ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP)
> Cc: HOHN Norbert (OP); ISOARD Olivier (OP)
> Subject: Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers
>
> Hi Agnieszka,
>
> a quick reply from my knowledge:
>
> In general we were involved here only in validation and a migration
> process from the release 00.05.0x to release 00.06.0x
> For EEA I am 100% sure we only validated the rdf2ckan package.
> For the others there has been a migration from an old DB to a new via
> the api. That could possible be a reason for not able to update them
> as datasets inserted via the api are not editable by a user.
>
> kind regards,
>
> Bert
>
> 2013/6/19 ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP) <Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu<mailto:Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu>>:
>> Hello Bert,
>>
>> During tomorrow's telco we would like to raise a new subject – to find out
>> how to update metadata of the data providers that were sending them directly
>> to you can be done.
>> It concerns Environment Agency and a few DGs eg. Regio, EAC, Empl, Budg
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Agnieszka Zając
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