[ECODP-dev] Malformed rdf

Bert Van Nuffelen bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com
Tue Nov 12 15:48:48 UTC 2013


Hi John,

great. I put tonight an updated version of rdf2ckan on that machine so that
we see the output in place.
I also pulled the code for CKAN so far and hopefully that build is also
ready. Then we can see our both improvement working in ace

kind regards,

Bert


2013/11/12 John Glover <john.glover at okfn.org>

> Hi Bert,
>
> Thanks, yes it looks good to me.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
>
> On 12 November 2013 16:32, Bert Van Nuffelen <
> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Can you check now the test server.
>>
>> It should be now on release 01.00.0x
>>
>> Bert
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/12 John Glover <john.glover at okfn.org>
>>
>>> Hi Bert,
>>>
>>> Ok thanks, let me know if your update resolves the problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 November 2013 16:23, Bert Van Nuffelen <
>>> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>>  - I am busy resurrecting the machines after the power cut this noon. -
>>>>
>>>> On this topic: we see by doing a detailed analysis that the apache Java
>>>> library is setting the content-type in the body of the request.
>>>> From what I have seen so far that might be the case why this parameter
>>>> is not taken into account. We have updated rdf2ckan to put is also in the
>>>> header and will do a test with the new version.
>>>>
>>>> kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/11/12 John Glover <john.glover at okfn.org>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bert,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I tested both create and update (both of which go through the same
>>>>> RDF validator).
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok thanks for the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 November 2013 11:34, Bert Van Nuffelen <
>>>>> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> strange. I will create a full dump of the request to see the content.
>>>>>> Did you do a create and an update?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps. we have an power interrupt from 12h (in half an hour) till 13h.
>>>>>> So there might be communication glitches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/11/12 John Glover <john.glover at okfn.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am unable to reproduce your error here. Both of those JSON files
>>>>>>> are imported fine for me using a simple Python client to make an API
>>>>>>> request (release 01), neither produce the error. Could you therefore please
>>>>>>> double check that your API request is correct, and let me know when the
>>>>>>> test server is back to release 01 so that we can test it again there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have pushed a change to ckanext-ecportal so it will now raise a
>>>>>>> ValidationError if it cannot parse the RDF in the dataset JSON as requested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12 November 2013 09:44, John Glover <john.glover at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bert,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, I will have a look at that JSON file and get back to you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12 November 2013 09:08, Bert Van Nuffelen <
>>>>>>>> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I forgot to add the message that I attached example json's  to the
>>>>>>>>> previous respons.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/12 Bert Van Nuffelen <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/11 John Glover <john.glover at okfn.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bert,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The last time this issue came up, the only way that we could
>>>>>>>>>>> recreate the problem was when making a request without setting the content
>>>>>>>>>>> type to 'application/json'. As you are now doing this, could you please
>>>>>>>>>>> send us an example of the JSON that you are sending to CKAN in a failing
>>>>>>>>>>> request so that we can investigate further.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > When I do my tests, it seems that in case the error occurs the
>>>>>>>>>>> submitted RDF is not saved, and hence the RDF in CKAN is
>>>>>>>>>>> > that one of the CKAN RDF generation process. Is that true?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes this is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > In that case the level of the message ERROR and the result by
>>>>>>>>>>> the API call return to it are not in sync. On an ERROR I
>>>>>>>>>>> > expect that the api call return an error code. If that was a
>>>>>>>>>>> warn I can understand that the api call returns success.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We could of course return a validation error here (although this
>>>>>>>>>>> has not been requested before). I believe the thinking was that it was best
>>>>>>>>>>> to save the data and ignore this error as CKAN can generate RDF, but this
>>>>>>>>>>> logic could be changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand the reasoning, but it results in an incorrect
>>>>>>>>>> end-result. In this case it even has hidden a communication error between
>>>>>>>>>> RDF2CKAN and CKAN. Since the api provides a correct feedback mechanism I
>>>>>>>>>> would like to rely on that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 November 2013 11:47, Bert Van Nuffelen <
>>>>>>>>>>> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> one addition, I run overnight with the same RDF2CKAN and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same ESTAT package an upload on the release 09.00.0x version and there in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the CKAN logs the above message is not  present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But when I do the synchronisation with virtuoso then I get
>>>>>>>>>>>> exceptions on parsing the RDF files as they have been converted by CKAN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So it seems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>    * in release 09.00.0x the check on this issue was not
>>>>>>>>>>>> present at all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>    * in release 01.00.0x the check is there, but is silently
>>>>>>>>>>>> replaces it with an empty value
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In both releases the accept-header is not bound to the desired
>>>>>>>>>>>> execution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/11/7 Bert Van Nuffelen <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have again this problem. This is related to the issue of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ODP-294
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the apache logs:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Tue Nov 05 21:16:57 2013] [error] 2013-11-05 21:16:57,306
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR [ckanext.ecportal.rdfutil] EntityRef: expecting ';', line 39, column
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 103
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the CKAN logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013-11-07 22:14:04,975 ERROR [ckanext.ecportal.rdfutil]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EntityRef: expecting ';', line 39, column 102
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As this is silently in the logs instead of a _proper_
>>>>>>>>>>>>> validation error like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013-11-07 22:09:21,996 ERROR [ckan.controllers.api]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Validation error: '{\'keyword_string\': [u\'Tag "inter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> national trade,trade statistics" must be alphanumeric
>>>>>>>>>>>>> characters or symbols: -_.\'], \'__type\': \'Validati
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Error\'}'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rdf2ckan can only conclude it has inserted the data correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while it is not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the outcome of rdf2ckan is hence untrust whorthy. For that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason this issue remained unseen by TF development.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly I am concerned about the fact if the above
>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration solution described by David is working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that the setting of the header to "application/json"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not result in the correct handling by CKAN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here under is the extract of the java code showing that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent the content-type as requested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> private static final String CONTENT_JSON = "application/json";
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> public Map<String, Object> post(String json, String method) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         if (json.isEmpty() || method.isEmpty())
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             return null;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         DefaultHttpClient httpClient = new DefaultHttpClient();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         HttpPost httpPost = requestCredentials(method);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         json = json.replaceAll(";", "");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         httpPost.setEntity(streamify(json, CONTENT_JSON));
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  public InputStreamEntity streamify(String json, String
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contentType) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         json = json.replaceAll(";", "");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         InputStreamEntity inputStreamEntity = new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> InputStreamEntity(new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ByteArrayInputStream(json.getBytes(Charset.forName("UTF-8"))),
>>>>>>>>>>>>> json.getBytes().length);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         inputStreamEntity.setContentType(contentType);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         return inputStreamEntity;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that the submitted RDF is all valid rdf and XML in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> request body: it passes through all XML & RDF validations (e.g. rapper).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I do my tests, it seems that in case the error occurs the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted RDF is not saved, and hence the RDF in CKAN is that one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CKAN RDF generation process. Is that true? In that case the level of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message ERROR and the result by the API call return to it are not in sync.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On an ERROR I expect that the api call return an error code. If that was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> warn I can understand that the api call returns success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the next actions should be taken:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) make the above error message a proper validation result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Note this solves also the problem of the meaningless error
>>>>>>>>>>>>> message. There is no reference at all in the message to know about which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> call/object it is. So the problem is unresolvable with this message. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting CKAN in debug mode logging for that is not very sensible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) ensure that the handling of RDF (in rdfxml-format) inside
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the json is treated properly and not interpreted as an html encoding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/9/18 David Raznick <david.raznick at okfn.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the error is because the wrong content type is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent when posting to ckan in rdf2ckan.   Content-Type:application/json
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be sent otherwise CKAN will think it is urlencoded and therefore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make the final document encoded wrongly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This must have changed at somepoint, as the live db does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have this issue and is likely what caused the unicode issues from happening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 September 2013 16:16, Dimitrios Mexis <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dimitrios.mexis at tenforce.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello David,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't do any postprocessing for the data we send.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's pure rdf content as read from the file. So, we depend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on CKAN how it will digest it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we need to do some postprocessing, can you give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarification on the matter ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does that have to do with the problem we faced with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unicode exceptions from CKAN as well ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/09/2013 17:12, David Raznick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hello Bert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  There appears to be a lot of malformed rdf documents in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the test system e.g
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://212.71.25.148/en/data/dataset/BrvXA5sZQ1AFKgE4Pktw.rdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  After some investigation this seems to due to the data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send by rdf2ckan.  It appears that xml "&" are not being escaped correctly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in some places.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  These errors do not appear on the live db as far as I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see, could you please look into this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bert Van Nuffelen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.tenforce.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: +32 (0)16 31 48 60
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.tenforce.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Semantic Technologies Software Architect at TenForce
>>>>>>>>>> www.tenforce.be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bert.Van.Nuffelen at tenforce.com
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>>>>>>>>>> Mobile:+32 479 06 24 26
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>>>>>>>>> www.tenforce.be
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